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1. utopia+mm3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 05:44:35
>>vikave+(OP)
To people claiming a physical raid is pointless from the point of gathering data :

- you are thinking about a company doing good things the right way. You are thinking about a company abiding by the law, storing data on its own server, having good practices, etc.

The moment a company starts to do dubious stuff then good practices start to go out the window. People write email with cryptic analogies, people start deleting emails, ... then as the circumvention become more numerous and complex, there needs to still be a trail in order to remain understandable. That trail will be in written form somehow and that must be hidden. It might be paper, it might be shadow IT but the point is that if you are not just forgetting to keep track of coffee pods at the social corner, you will leave traces.

So yes, raids do make sense BECAUSE it's about recurring complex activities that are just too hard to keep in the mind of one single individual over long periods of time.

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2. tick_t+JV3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 10:37:46
>>utopia+mm3
No need to be coy the raid exists because it's a way to punish the company without proving anything. They have zero intention of getting even the slightest bit of valuable data related to Grok from this.
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3. fyredg+yK4[view] [source] 2026-02-04 15:46:58
>>tick_t+JV3
Unlike the current American administration who condones raids on homes without warrants and justifies violence with lies, this France raid follows something called rule of law.

So no, don't be coy and pretend that all governments are like American institutions.

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4. Levitz+k25[view] [source] 2026-02-04 17:03:06
>>fyredg+yK4
>Unlike the current American administration who condones raids on homes without warrants and justifies violence with lies, this France raid follows something called rule of law.

Iffy on that front, actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_and_indictment_of_Pavel...

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5. watwut+F16[view] [source] 2026-02-04 21:38:24
>>Levitz+k25
There was legal warrant and the wikipedia does not mention any lies or rules being being broken. There is nothing "Iffy" on that front.

And, to spell it out, it is also funny to see who was complaining about it back then. On the free speech grounds, not less, literally people trying to dismantle democracy and create autocracy. Russian soldiers and operators, Maria Butina, Medvedev and Elon Musk. Bad faith actors having bad faith arguments.

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