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1. fix4fu+2F7[view] [source] 2026-02-03 22:34:35
>>sberen+(OP)
50k lm is quite high. What electric power consumption does it have ? I estimate around 500 Watt, am I right ?
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2. sberen+1I7[view] [source] 2026-02-03 22:49:49
>>fix4fu+2F7
It's 60k lumens now, and it draws 580W off the wall
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3. michae+uQ7[view] [source] 2026-02-03 23:38:40
>>sberen+1I7
Am I right in thinking you're dissipating that 580W using passive cooling only?

Impressive if so - every time I've designed something approaching that power level I've ended up needing forced air cooling.

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4. geneze+QW7[view] [source] 2026-02-04 00:13:52
>>michae+uQ7
> Q: Does it get hot/how is it cooled?

> A: It's cooled through our large heatsink and ultra quiet Noctua fan. The fan only turns on above 75% brightness. At max power, the heatsink is cool enough to put your hands on it for a couple of seconds.

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5. Y-bar+twa[view] [source] 2026-02-04 18:09:29
>>geneze+QW7
CENELEC Guide 29, referenced in EU harmonized standards sets burn thresholds:

For brief contact (e.g., 1-3 seconds on adult-accessible parts), temperatures should stay below ~48-55°C depending on material; longer reflexive contact requires even lower limits (e.g., 43°C for extended exposure). A surface hot enough that hands can only tolerate it for "a couple of seconds" implies it's above this (likely 60°C+), risking second-degree burns.

I practice this means this product would not be allowed to be sold in EU. This would have been thoroughly tested to get the CE mark.

> All LED lights sold in Europe must carry the CE mark

https://wwbridge-cert.com/blog/posts/is-ce-marking-for-led-l...

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6. geneze+z8b[view] [source] 2026-02-04 20:59:41
>>Y-bar+twa
Well, at no point do they talk about any kind of certification so my guess is they just didn't care/know/worry about it. So, yes, it's probably not legal to sell this in many places -not just EU-.
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