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1. utopia+mm3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 05:44:35
>>vikave+(OP)
To people claiming a physical raid is pointless from the point of gathering data :

- you are thinking about a company doing good things the right way. You are thinking about a company abiding by the law, storing data on its own server, having good practices, etc.

The moment a company starts to do dubious stuff then good practices start to go out the window. People write email with cryptic analogies, people start deleting emails, ... then as the circumvention become more numerous and complex, there needs to still be a trail in order to remain understandable. That trail will be in written form somehow and that must be hidden. It might be paper, it might be shadow IT but the point is that if you are not just forgetting to keep track of coffee pods at the social corner, you will leave traces.

So yes, raids do make sense BECAUSE it's about recurring complex activities that are just too hard to keep in the mind of one single individual over long periods of time.

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2. Silver+rY3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 10:57:39
>>utopia+mm3
It's also just very basic police work. We're investigating this company, we think they've committed a crime. Ok, why do you think that. Well they've very publicly and obviously committed a crime. Ok, are you going to prosecute them? Probably. Have you gone to their offices and gathered evidence? No thanks.

Of course they're going to raid their offices! They're investigating a crime! It would be quite literally insane if they tried to prosecute them for a crime and how up to court having not even attempted basic steps to gather evidence!

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3. NooneA+4g4[view] [source] 2026-02-04 13:06:28
>>Silver+rY3
that's kinda the normalization argument, not the reason behind it

"it is done because it's always done so"

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4. pjc50+aE4[view] [source] 2026-02-04 15:17:44
>>NooneA+4g4
Well, yes, it is actually pretty normal for suspected criminal businesses. What's unusual is that this one has their own publicity engine. Americans are just having trouble coping with the idea of a corporation being held liable for crimes.

More normally it looks like e.g. this in the UK: https://news.sky.com/video/police-raid-hundreds-of-businesse...

CyberGEND more often seem to do smalltime copyright infringement enforcement, but there are a number of authorities with the right to conduct raids.

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5. learin+9F4[view] [source] 2026-02-04 15:22:08
>>pjc50+aE4
“Americans are just having trouble coping with the idea of a corporation being held liable for crimes.”

I’m sorry but that’s absurd even amidst the cacophony of absurdity that comprises public discourse these days.

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6. Rygian+LG4[view] [source] 2026-02-04 15:30:12
>>learin+9F4
I'll bite.

How was TikTok held liable for the crimes it was accused of?

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7. throwp+JR4[view] [source] 2026-02-04 16:18:44
>>Rygian+LG4
It was force-sold to Oracle.
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