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1. stickf+gv1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 18:13:35
>>vikave+(OP)
Honest question: What does it mean to "raid" the offices of a tech company? It's not like they have file cabinets with paper records. Are they just seizing employee workstations?

Seems like you'd want to subpoena source code or gmail history or something like that. Not much interesting in an office these days.

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2. nieman+k52[view] [source] 2026-02-03 20:45:10
>>stickf+gv1
Gather evidence against employees, use that evidence to put them under pressure to testify against their employer or grant access to evidence.

Sabu was put under pressure by the FBI, they threatened to place his kids into foster care.

That was legal. Guess what, similar things would be legal in France.

We all forget that money is nice, but nation states have real power. Western liberal democracies just rarely use it.

The same way the president of the USA can order a Drone strike on a Taliban war lord, the president of France could order Musks plane to be escorted to Paris by 3 Fighter jets.

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3. ChrisM+Kg2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 21:42:31
>>nieman+k52
> We all forget that money is nice, but nation states have real power.

I remember something (probably linked from here), where the essayist was comparing Jack Ma, one of the richest men on earth, and Xi Jinping, a much lower-paid individual.

They indicated that Xi got Ma into a chokehold. I think he "disappeared" Ma for some time. Don't remember exactly how long, but it may have been over a year.

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4. kshack+mu2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 22:54:29
>>ChrisM+Kg2
From what I hear, Ma made 1 speech critical of the government and Xi showed him his place. It was a few years, a year of total disappearance followed by slow rehab.

But China is different. Not sure most of western europe will go that far in most cases.

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5. Sanjay+kA2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 23:30:22
>>kshack+mu2
Trump kidnapped Maduro to show the latter his place, but then the US is neither China nor Western Europe so that does not count.
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6. almost+MD2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 23:47:23
>>Sanjay+kA2
Arrested and the vast majority of Venezuela love that it happened.

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/venezuela-survey-trump-ma...

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7. Sanjay+qG2[view] [source] 2026-02-04 00:02:00
>>almost+MD2
Rand Paul asked Rubio what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot. Every US President from Truman onwards is a war criminal.

https://www.tampafp.com/rand-paul-and-marco-rubio-clash-over...

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8. foolse+UR2[view] [source] 2026-02-04 01:12:45
>>Sanjay+qG2
The people of the US mostly wouldn’t like it the people of VZ mostly did and consider Maduro a thug who lost and stayed in power not their president. Ideologies like Paul have trouble with exceptions to their world view.
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9. MYEUHD+Ke3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 04:24:12
>>foolse+UR2
> the people of VZ mostly did and consider Maduro a thug who lost and stayed in power not their president.

You got this information from American media (or their allies')

In reality, Venezuelans flooded the streets in marches demanding the return of their president.

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10. termin+HX3[view] [source] 2026-02-04 10:51:46
>>MYEUHD+Ke3
How many of them?
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