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1. Shank+Ve1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 03:27:26
>>trms+(OP)
The community has been in a deadlock over making FSRS the default (https://github.com/ankitects/anki/issues/3616), and I wonder if this will lead to some resolution.

It seems like the core things that Anki needs are new user experience improvements, and algorithm updates. SM2 really shows its age as compared to other algorithms.

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2. SpaceM+bh1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 03:48:24
>>Shank+Ve1
Is there that much of a difference?
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3. saubei+xD1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 07:14:04
>>SpaceM+bh1
Yeah, FSRS is much better. For me it was the difference between learning 10 new words of Mandarin a day and learning 20, with the same time commitment.
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4. zelphi+0Z1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 10:00:57
>>saubei+xD1
To me it sounds like an incredible speed to learn even 10 Mandarin words per day, let alone 20. So extreme, that I must wonder, what definition of "Mandarin words" and what definition of "learned" you are using, when you are writing that, or, that you are an extreme outlier in terms of memorizing visual information.

For me really learning a word means:

    (1) Knowing how to say it.
    (2) Knowing how to write it, meaning the Chinese characters, of course.
    (3) Still remembering (1) and (2) after at least a month.
    (4) Being able to actually use the word correctly.
Do you really learn 20 words properly under those definitions? If so, then respect. I consider myself to have quite a good memory for visual information, but if I don't try to memorize 20 words as a full-time activity on that day, and write them hundreds of times, I am fairly sure they won't stick for long, maybe not even until the next day. Some obviously will, and some have good explanations why the characters look as they do, but others don't, and feel arbitrarily constructed.
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5. saubei+pa3[view] [source] 2026-02-03 16:51:30
>>zelphi+0Z1
I should have clarified. My goal in learning Mandarin is only conversational fluency, not literacy.

I don't bother with the Hanzi past being able to recognize them. I want to be able to talk to people and, if I have to, use a pinyin keyboard to write basic sentences.

So only 1 & 4 are really relevant, 2 is what Anki is designed to do.

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6. KPGv2+dV3[view] [source] 2026-02-03 19:58:28
>>saubei+pa3
Literacy shouldn't matter for the definition of knowing a language anyway. Orthography isn't language. It's a symbolic notation that represents a language. Blind people don't speak a different language from non-blind people. Illiterate people can still speak language. Children still speak language. Humans in societies where writing systems do not exist still can speak language.

Writing a language makes you more skilled at living in the modern world. It's not a threshold past which you must travel to count as a speaker of that language.

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7. saubei+814[view] [source] 2026-02-03 20:24:00
>>KPGv2+dV3
Yeah, that's pretty much my thinking also.

By cutting out the memorization of Hanzi, I am able to accelerate my actual goal of having conversations with people.

In Silicon Valley speak, I think the term would be "ruthless prioritization" .

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8. KPGv2+G25[view] [source] 2026-02-04 02:31:25
>>saubei+814
Also you can probably still write. Just not by hand. Which is a vanishingly useful skill.

Unless you're applying for something in China, you don't need to know how to write hanzi ever, except for very one-off instances like "I can write happy new year in Chinese"

You know how many times I've written "real" Japanese by hand since 2005? Zero. I've written my name and stuff, sometimes I'll write 愛 to show my daughters. Nothing else. Because it's a worthless skill unless you live in Japan. Not even visiting. You live there.

Of course I type all the time. But typing is speaking + reading. It's not writing. You type phonetically (i.e., you know how to say the word), and then you hit spacebar until the correct kanji comes up (i.e., you can read kanji).

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