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1. vessen+ue[view] [source] 2026-02-03 11:59:58
>>vikave+(OP)
Interesting. This is basically the second enforcement on speech / images that France has done - first was Pavel Durov @ Telegram. He eventually made changes in Telegram's moderation infrastructure and I think was allowed to leave France sometime last year.

I don't love heavy-handed enforcement on speech issues, but I do really like a heterogenous cultural situation, so I think it's interesting and probably to the overall good to have a country pushing on these matters very hard, just as a matter of keeping a diverse set of global standards, something that adds cultural resilience for humanity.

linkedin is not a replacement for twitter, though. I'm curious if they'll come back post-settlement.

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2. StopDi+dm[view] [source] 2026-02-03 12:50:31
>>vessen+ue
Very different charges however.

Durov was held on suspicion Telegram was willingly failing to moderate its platform and allowed drug trafficking and other illegal activities to take place.

X has allegedly illegally sent data to the US in violation of GDPR and contributed to child porn distribution.

Note that both are directly related to direct violation of data safety law or association with a separate criminal activities, neither is about speech.

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3. vessen+NQ[view] [source] 2026-02-03 15:34:06
>>StopDi+dm
I like your username, by the way.

CSAM was the lead in the 2024 news headlines in the French prosecution of Telegram also. I didn't follow the case enough to know where they went, or what the judge thought was credible.

From a US mindset, I'd say that generation of communication, including images, would fall under speech. But then we classify it very broadly here. Arranging drug deals on a messaging app definitely falls under the concept of speech in the US as well. Heck, I've been told by FBI agents that they believe assassination markets are legal in the US - protected speech.

Obviously, assassinations themselves, not so much.

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4. direwo+9E2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 23:50:03
>>vessen+NQ
In some shady corners of the internet I still see advertisements for child porn through Telegram, so they must be doing a shit job at it
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