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1. stickf+gv1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 18:13:35
>>vikave+(OP)
Honest question: What does it mean to "raid" the offices of a tech company? It's not like they have file cabinets with paper records. Are they just seizing employee workstations?

Seems like you'd want to subpoena source code or gmail history or something like that. Not much interesting in an office these days.

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2. nieman+k52[view] [source] 2026-02-03 20:45:10
>>stickf+gv1
Gather evidence against employees, use that evidence to put them under pressure to testify against their employer or grant access to evidence.

Sabu was put under pressure by the FBI, they threatened to place his kids into foster care.

That was legal. Guess what, similar things would be legal in France.

We all forget that money is nice, but nation states have real power. Western liberal democracies just rarely use it.

The same way the president of the USA can order a Drone strike on a Taliban war lord, the president of France could order Musks plane to be escorted to Paris by 3 Fighter jets.

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3. ChrisM+Kg2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 21:42:31
>>nieman+k52
> We all forget that money is nice, but nation states have real power.

I remember something (probably linked from here), where the essayist was comparing Jack Ma, one of the richest men on earth, and Xi Jinping, a much lower-paid individual.

They indicated that Xi got Ma into a chokehold. I think he "disappeared" Ma for some time. Don't remember exactly how long, but it may have been over a year.

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4. kshack+mu2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 22:54:29
>>ChrisM+Kg2
From what I hear, Ma made 1 speech critical of the government and Xi showed him his place. It was a few years, a year of total disappearance followed by slow rehab.

But China is different. Not sure most of western europe will go that far in most cases.

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5. Sanjay+kA2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 23:30:22
>>kshack+mu2
Trump kidnapped Maduro to show the latter his place, but then the US is neither China nor Western Europe so that does not count.
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