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1. cf100c+n[view] [source] 2026-02-02 17:47:14
>>cf100c+(OP)
This is a mindblower. To quote Bruce Dubbs:

''As a personal note, I do not like this decision. To me LFS is about learning how a system works. Understanding the boot process is a big part of that. systemd is about 1678 "C" files plus many data files. System V is "22" C files plus about 50 short bash scripts and data files. Yes, systemd provides a lot of capabilities, but we will be losing some things I consider important.

However, the decision needs to be made.''

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2. nine_k+gr[view] [source] 2026-02-02 19:56:14
>>cf100c+n
Runit is 5474 SLOCs. Most source files are shorter than 100 lines. Works like a charm. Implements an init system; does not replace DNS, syslog, inetd, or anything else.

Systemd, by construction, is a set of Unix-replacing daemons. An ideal embedded system setup is kernel, systemd, and the containers it runs (even without podman). This makes sense, especially given the Red Hat's line of business, but it has little relation to the Unix design, or to learning how to do things from scratch.

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3. binkHN+Tv[view] [source] 2026-02-02 20:14:30
>>nine_k+gr
I use runit on my production workstation and don't think about it; it just works.
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4. BadBad+Cu3[view] [source] 2026-02-03 15:33:19
>>binkHN+Tv
Same with systemd.
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5. its_ma+ZU4[view] [source] 2026-02-03 21:43:48
>>BadBad+Cu3
Except for all those who've accidentally blown their legs off with it, of course.

Just ask the guy who bricked his motherboard due to a systemd bug where his firmware wasn't write protected and got destroyed by a 'rm -rf' command. lol

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6. BadBad+E05[view] [source] 2026-02-03 22:14:39
>>its_ma+ZU4
No software is perfect. Not sysvinit (and it's bash scripts from different vendors), nor systemd. Errors happen. At least for me systemd is a net positive.
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