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>>cf100c+(OP)
This is a mindblower. To quote Bruce Dubbs:

''As a personal note, I do not like this decision. To me LFS is about learning how a system works. Understanding the boot process is a big part of that. systemd is about 1678 "C" files plus many data files. System V is "22" C files plus about 50 short bash scripts and data files. Yes, systemd provides a lot of capabilities, but we will be losing some things I consider important.

However, the decision needs to be made.''

>>cf100c+n
With limited resources, sometimes practicality needs to win. Kudos to Bruce for putting aside his (valid) feelings on the subject and doing what is best for the team and community overall.

>>clintf+86
I disagree.

I will soon be releasing a distro that is free of systemd, wayland, dbus, and other troublesome software. It is built starting from LFS in 2019, and now consists of over 1,500 packages, cross compiling to x86-32/64, powerpc32/64, and others if I had hardware to test. It's built entirely from shell scripts which are clean, organized, and easy to read.

I need help to get the system ready for release in 60-90 days. In particular, I need a fast build system, as my current 12+ year old workstation is too slow. Alpha/beta testers are welcome too. Anyone who wants to help in some way or hear more details, please get in touch:

domain: killthe.net

user: dave

>>its_ma+eq
How did you get GTK3/4 to work without dbus?

>>M95D+4y
I got rid of dbus in GTK3 by patching the code so that the "accessibility bridge" (to ATK) can be disabled. GTK4 is beneath contempt and will not be supported.

The system uses GTK2 wherever possible, or GTK3 when not. I will either port everything to GTK2 later or create some kind of shim library. Help wanted here. Porting back to GTK2 isn't hard, I just don't have time to work on any of that at the moment.

>>its_ma+xz
I'm running Gentoo without dbus and I'm stuck at gtk 3.24.34. I would love to see those patches. Your site appears to be down.

>>M95D+5F
It's just HTTP only (no SSL) and there's nothing there. ... until now!

Here's some nice GTK3 patches for you:

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-allow-disabling-atk-b...

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-allow-transparent-win...

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-allow-wheel-scrolling...

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-appearance-tweaks-and...

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-disable-mnemonics-del...

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-file-chooser-tweaks.p...

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-remove-dead-key-under...

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-restore-old-context-m...

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-set-default-settings....

http://killthe.net/patches/gtk-3.24.43-show-alternating-row-...

Note that GTK 3.24.43 is the last version of GTK3.

My system is full of patches like this to tweak, improve, and adjust things. The point is to get off the "upgrade" treadmill and focus on making things work right.

>>its_ma+HH
Who's the guy with Firefox 147 32-bit x86 who downloaded a patch? Nice to see there's still at least a few 32-bit users left out there. My system cross compiles to i686, and builds as multilib (both 32-bit and 64-bit libraries) for x86-64 as well, FYI.

Some of these User Agents have to be fake. Android 6.0.1 with Chrome 144, really? lol

>>its_ma+ww1
Some wise guy has a "Linux/SystemD" user agent. lol

This fella would like to have a word with you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfELJU1mRMg

>>its_ma+7L1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=atcqMWqB3hw