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1. simlev+S1[view] [source] 2026-02-02 02:18:44
>>myster+(OP)
Probably related to this: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v869-about-taiwan/
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2. icelan+72[view] [source] 2026-02-02 02:21:13
>>simlev+S1
Yeah, Notepad++ is known for political messaging in their updates. Taiwan, Ukraine, etc.
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3. LoganD+W3[view] [source] 2026-02-02 02:39:38
>>icelan+72
I can't help but feel there must some better venue for such messaging.

When I see politics in software updates or documentation, nothing happens because I'm not looking to use the software for political activism. Maybe I tell my adblocker to remove the messaging, and carry on with my task.

I can engage with politics in a social context, when political messaging isn't interrupting something else I'm doing; that's a better place for activism, IMHO.

I almost always see activists using the argument that if I don't like the messaging then I'm part of the problem. Somehow I doubt that, given I don't mind messaging at all, where it's appropriate.

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4. ryandr+K4[view] [source] 2026-02-02 02:49:36
>>LoganD+W3
Similar comments also come up in the [now regular] "I don't want to see political articles on HN" threads, and I think the response is similar: Asking for "no politics" is itself a strong political view: One in support/service of whatever the current status quo is. Trying to set oneself apart from (or above) politics is itself political. If you're lucky enough to be one of the fortunate people on earth who are not under attack by political forces or who benefit from status quo politics, I'd encourage you to simply reflect on that good luck and try to ignore the "politics" that others are deeply affected by and care about.
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5. espere+07[view] [source] 2026-02-02 03:09:39
>>ryandr+K4
I partially agree, but as a non-US user of the English speaking internet, the issue is with specifically US politics and social issues being everywhere. It drowns out all attempts at discourse for anything else, and Americans, including people here, seem uniquely incapable of nuance in their thinking when it comes to politics.

So, while I fully agree with your stance that banning political discourse is support for the status quo, I also think that it's reasonable to ask for it to be toned down a bit, especially when the politics and social issues of one country is basically drowning out everything else.

All that said, I'm talking mostly about HN or other community forums here. The owner of Notepad++ has the right to put whatever they want into their software, and if we're discussing that here on HN then it's an occasion where discussing politics is valid.

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6. bsder+dg[view] [source] 2026-02-02 04:53:15
>>espere+07
> the issue is with specifically US politics and social issues being everywhere. It drowns out all attempts at discourse for anything else

Unfortunately, US politics also drives tech issues elsewhere like the EU. For example, local data control is a big thing that some of us have been screaming about forever but nobody paid attention to--until US politics made it a hot button issue.

And, to be honest, if the EU would get off its ass and at least try to foster some alternatives, even those of us in the US would benefit. EU alternatives would mean that people in the US could finally vote against the megajillionaires with their wallets.

> Americans, including people here, seem uniquely incapable of nuance in their thinking when it comes to politics.

Bullets and beatings don't leave much room for nuance regardless of country.

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7. direwo+gR[view] [source] 2026-02-02 11:38:44
>>bsder+dg
The EU is trying but these things have to happen bottom–up. The EU Council or EU Parliament isn't a software development shop. They allocate funds to groups like NLNET who allocate them to a selection of the projects they get proposals for. NLNET can only allocate funds to something an individual or small group proposes. If you want to propose something, please go ahead.

Capitalists can also start software businesses and sell their software, but those are all in Silicon Valley because the money is there because the US has a privileged financial position.

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8. bsder+rm3[view] [source] 2026-02-03 00:25:34
>>direwo+gR
> NLNET can only allocate funds to something an individual or small group proposes. If you want to propose something, please go ahead.

Well, gee, let's look at the sponsorship page for KiCad: https://www.kicad.org/sponsors/sponsors/

I see a couple EU companies, but no EU governments. It takes a paltry $15K to be a Platinum sponsor.

I picked KiCad because PCB design is critical military infrastructure, the alternative programs are almost all under non-EU jurisdictions and could be pulled, and KiCad is both open source and local desktop to top it all off. This is exactly the kind of quiet, unflashy toil that desperately needs support from a government entity.

Lots of areas need support for open source alternatives that are controlled by proprietary software that might vaporize. I picked PCB design because it's an easy target. Cadence and Synopsys have locks on VLSI design domains that could get yanked from the EU. VHDL tooling is still disastrously poor. Everybody could use an alternative 3D modeling kernel (the EU is a little better here because the dominant proprietary kernels are from Dassault Systèmes and Siemens). I'm sticking to software as the domain because the purpose of the funding is obvious (pay developers, duh), but it also applies to things like small manufacturing and maintaining domestic supply chains (but the purpose and focus becomes a lot messier).

And yet, everywhere I look, any project I pick, crickets.

I don't expect the EU to front run, but something like KiCad is 3 bloody decades old.

> those are all in Silicon Valley because the money is there because the US has a privileged financial position.

And yet you had the rise of Akihabara as an electronic parts mecca which then later got eclipsed by Shenzhen. And that's not even talking about the fact that the modern computing sits atop a mountain of stuff developed out of the VLSI Project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLSI_Project).

All of those occurred because their respective governments threw money around.

Sure, maybe you won't create another Silicon Valley hare, but, perhaps, just perhaps, you might create a relentless, open source EU tortoise that slowly displaces the proprietary software. The EU is good at slow--relentless, not so much.

Sadly, a continual state of inertia and sclerosis and failure around tech seems to be historically European: https://www.phenomenalworld.org/analysis/the-eurochip/

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