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1. ed+Yz[view] [source] 2026-01-27 20:29:02
>>philip+(OP)
A bit OT but why is moltbot so much more popular than the many personal agents that have been around for a while?
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2. manmal+MW[view] [source] 2026-01-27 21:53:17
>>ed+Yz
- Peter has spent the last year building up a large assortment of CLIs to integrate with. He‘s also a VERY good iOS and macOS engineer so he single handedly gave clawd capabilities like controlling macOS and writing iMessages.

- Leaning heavily on the SOUL.md makes the agents way funnier to interact with. Early clawdbot had me laugh to tears a couple times, with its self-deprecating humor and threatening to play Nickelback on Peter‘s sound system.

- Molt is using pi under the hood, which is superior to using CC SDK

- Peter’s ability to multitask surpasses anything I‘ve ever seen (I know him personally), and he’s also super well connected.

Check out pi BTW, it’s my daily driver and is now capable to write its own extensions. I wrote a git branch stack visualizer _for_ pi, _in_ pi in like 5 minutes. It’s uncanny.

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3. piffey+sm1[view] [source] 2026-01-28 00:09:04
>>manmal+MW
I've been really curious about pi and have been following it but haven't seen a reason to switch yet outside anecdotes. What makes it a better daily driver out of the box compared to Claude or Codex? What did you end up needing to add to get your workflow to be "now capable to write its own extensions"? Just trying to see what the benefit would be if I hop into a new tool.
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4. manmal+D22[view] [source] 2026-01-28 06:16:03
>>piffey+sm1
Why don’t you try it, it’s 2 minutes to setup (or tell Claude to do it), and it uses your CC Max sub if you want.

Some advantages:

- Faster because it does no extra Haiku inference for every prompt (Anthropic does this for safety it seems)

- Extensions & skills can be hot reloaded. Pi is aware of its own docs so you just tell it „build an extension that does this and that“. Things like sub agents or chains of sub agents are easily doable. You could probably make a Ralph workflow extension in a few minutes if you think that’s a good idea.

- Tree based history rewind (no code rewind but you could make an extension for that easily)

- Readable session format (jsonl) - you can actually DO things with your session files like analysis or submit it along with a PR. People have workflows around this already. Armin Ronacher liked asking pi about other user’s sessions to judge quality.

- No flicker because Mario knows his TUI stuff. He sometimes tells the CC engs on X how they could fix their flicker but they don’t seem to listen. The TUI is published separately as well (pi-tui) and I‘ve been implementing a tailing log reader based on it - works well.

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5. VadimP+I72[view] [source] 2026-01-28 07:11:50
>>manmal+D22
Using your CC Max account for this seems like a good way to get your account banned, as it's against the ToS and Anthropic has started enforcing this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only legal way to use pi is to use an API, and that's enormously expensive.

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6. manmal+rI2[view] [source] 2026-01-28 12:09:19
>>VadimP+I72
Sure, I'm not using it with my company/enterprise account for that reason. But for my private sub, it's worth the tradeoff/risk. Ethically I see no issue at all, because those LLMs are trained on who knows what.

But you can use pi with z.ai or any of the other cheap Claude-distilled providers for a couple bucks per month. Just calculate the risk that your data might be sold I guess?

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7. illumi+mR2[view] [source] 2026-01-28 13:10:36
>>manmal+rI2
Really curious, what paragraph of the ToS is being violated?
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8. manmal+Hc4[view] [source] 2026-01-28 19:02:42
>>illumi+mR2
Look it up. They have banned people over this and it was all over the news, some people cancelling their accounts etc
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9. illumi+X16[view] [source] 2026-01-29 07:47:32
>>manmal+Hc4
So the same is true if people use OpenCode with Claude Pro/Max?
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