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>>mhb+(OP)
That's crazy.

That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.

>>bawolf+Y6
There was a lot of death in 2 days but the revolution started about a month ago so it's not just those two days. I think you could compare Gaza to a single Iranian city, but Iran is much larger than this. Another important distinction is that - no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza, but they clearly are the target in Iran. If the civilians had weapons, it would be a different story.

>>domini+VO
> civilians aren't the target in Gaza

"We killed about 80,000 people by mistake" isn't the exculpation you think it is.

>>pjc50+Hq4
No one who is sane is saying that. IDF is saying – we killed 40.000 combatants who were hiding in ciivilan infrastructure, so unfortunately 1:1 civilian deaths happened, becaue of the terrorist urban warfare tactics hamas and palestinian islamic jihad are using.

>>gryzzl+Xz4
Except of course, the IDF high command officially gave the order to "give up all restraint".

>>lukan+VK4
were you serving in the last two years and received this order? none of my friends or family have.

>>gryzzl+OZ4
https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203447

"On 9 October 2023, Mr Yoav Gallant, Defence Minister of Israel, announced that he had ordered a “complete siege” of Gaza City and that there would be “no electricity, no food, no fuel” and that “everything [was] closed”. On the following day, Minister Gallant stated, speaking to Israeli troops on the Gaza border: “I have released all restraints . . . You saw what we are fighting against. We are fighting human animals. This is the ISIS of Gaza. This is what we are fighting against . . . Gaza won’t return to what it was before. There will be no Hamas. We will eliminate everything. If it doesn’t take one day, it will take a week, it will take weeks or even months, we will reach all places.”

>>lukan+E45
Do you see how it refers to Hamas? What should this quote prove? To me it proves that high command gives fighters motivational speeches, nothing else.

Also, the measures concluded in the end of the document are about ensuring this was a motivational speech for soldiers that are going to fight Hamas terrorists, not a vague statement.

>>gryzzl+z55
Do you also believe all people in Gaza are Hamas?

If not, I don't see him making that distinction, by stating to block all food from entering Gaza and dropping all restraints for attacking Hamas.

I did not had he impression there ever were restraints when dealing with Hamas. So restraints were always for bystanders. Which were dropped.

>>lukan+t95
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