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1. bawolf+Y6[view] [source] 2026-01-26 01:41:03
>>mhb+(OP)
That's crazy.

That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.

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2. PlatoI+o9[view] [source] 2026-01-26 01:58:42
>>bawolf+Y6
I've read a ton of philosophy and something I don't really understand is that one nation killing another is more immoral than when a nation does this to their own domestic population.

Sure you will get some nay-sayers who say 'a life is a life', if moral particles existed, they might be correct.

But for some reason, humanity doesn't seem to care as much.

What makes intra-state politics more acceptable to use violence?

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3. kalter+Hc[view] [source] 2026-01-26 02:22:58
>>PlatoI+o9
“A country that violates the rights of its own citizens, will not respect the rights of its neighbors.”

That’s from my readings of philosophy.

But yeah, I do recognize the same sentiment as you found. I think philosophy itself is an answer: most philosophies explicitly champion dictatorships, under whitewashed terms. Ever heard something like “society is a big organ transcending individual needs”? We got it from Hegel.

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4. Braxto+vd[view] [source] 2026-01-26 02:29:55
>>kalter+Hc
>most philosophies explicitly champion dictatorships

I don't understand how you could make this claim.

"society is a big organ transcending individual needs”?"

How does this statement by Hegel champion dictatorships?

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5. kalter+Jj[view] [source] 2026-01-26 03:31:38
>>Braxto+vd
> I don't understand how you could make this claim.

After studying Plato, Hegel, Marx, Rousseau, fascist ideologies, Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill. This list is by no means exhaustive, just a few majors from the top of my head.

Sure, they didn’t just say “shoot people for power.” That’s a very shallow modern view. Instead, they champion extreme forms of altruism and its only logical expression: statism, which holds that man’s life and work belong to the state, to society, to the group, the race, the nation, the economic class.

> How does this statement by Hegel champion dictatorships?

The statement alone surely doesn’t. His philosophy does. For him, state is a sacred authority that transcends individual will.

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6. Braxto+Hm[view] [source] 2026-01-26 04:00:01
>>kalter+Jj
>For him, state is a sacred authority that transcends individual will.

State authority exists in democracys therefore that's not an argument for dictatorships

>they champion extreme forms of altruism and its only logical expression: statism

Why is statism the only logical expression of extreme altruism? Jesus Christ was the ultimate altruist and is not a state. I can dedicate my life to only helping others over myself as an individual .

You're arguments and example are extremely poor because you showing evidence related to governments and states but your original claim was to one specific type of government, a dictatorship.

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