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1. fugalf+C1[view] [source] 2026-01-25 20:37:55
>>mickle+(OP)
I am so terribly disturbed by the ICE shootings (and killings). There is no justification for them. This is supposed to be a nation of laws and the rights of those shot (to say nothing of those abducted and harassed, beaten, or removed without due process) has been so grossly violated that it's hard to believe.

My heart aches for the countless victims of this band of fascists in the executive branch.

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2. Realit+z3[view] [source] 2026-01-25 20:49:42
>>fugalf+C1
> I am so terribly disturbed by the ICE shootings (and killings). There is no justification for them.

I think they are simply poorly trained people that are given free reign. The results are disastrous. They probably don't wake up thinking "Today I'm going to murder someone" but they just don't realize what they're doing. I'm not sure how it's at the destructiveness scale at this moment, but these organizations can and it probably will get much worse as their internal culture morphs into more directly aggressive stance.

The shootings were incredibly dumb, and it's pretty much what one would expect when they create this kind of situation. Listening to the "Revolutions" podcast I realized situations like these are incredibly common all along history, you have armed people with tense spirits, a gun goes off and tragedy ensues. The most terrible part of all of this is the reaction of the authorities that lie, gaslight and support these people, get them off the hook and this reaction will only generate more violence and more deaths as ICE realizes they _really can_ act with impunity.

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3. former+P4[view] [source] 2026-01-25 20:56:15
>>Realit+z3
> They probably don't wake up thinking "Today I'm going to murder someone" but they just don't realize what they're doing.

Jonathan Ross (the ICE agent who shot and killed Renée Good) is an Iraq war veteran who has served in military and paramilitary units (National Guard, CBP, ICE) for over two decades. He intentionally engaged in a behavior that has been documented as far back as 2014 [1] to manufacture a reason to shoot the person in front of him.

Did he premeditate killing someone while getting out of bed that morning? Probably not.

Did he make the decision to kill Ms. Good in advance? No reasonable doubt.

[1] Even by CBP internal reviews, no less: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/us-border-agents-i...

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