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1. rich_s+bc[view] [source] 2026-01-24 17:53:48
>>oceans+(OP)
IANAA: what legal powers does the city/state have to expel ICE agents? Especially as they are operating in, at best, increasingly shady legality.

I always understood that the USA is built on a delicate balance of power between the federal and state governments. But here the federal government is sending thugs who, masked or unmasked, are brazenly killing people in bizzare circumstances. And the best the state can do is PTFO?

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2. toomuc+Fh[view] [source] 2026-01-24 18:28:27
>>rich_s+bc
Make it illegal to enable any commercial transactions within the state supporting federal agents. No food sales, no fuel sales, no hotel stays, no medical care, no rental cars. Make them drag their supply chain in like the Middle East.

In state economic deplatforming.

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3. maxeri+2j[view] [source] 2026-01-24 18:38:17
>>toomuc+Fh
Make it illegal to enable any commercial transactions within the state supporting federal agents. No food sales, no fuel sales, no hotel stays, no medical care, no rental cars. Make them drag their supply chain in like the Middle East.

In state economic deplatforming.

You're gonna prosecute Minnesotans for accepting cash?

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4. xboxno+Vk[view] [source] 2026-01-24 18:51:00
>>maxeri+2j
No, its prosecution for supporting terrorists.
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5. maxeri+Px[view] [source] 2026-01-24 20:06:15
>>xboxno+Vk
Some guy comes into your restaurant and eats a meal. Pays cash. Leaves. He was ICE. You're now subject to charges from the state of Minnesota?

That sounds like maybe not entirely the best idea.

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6. hdgvhi+7W[view] [source] 2026-01-24 23:05:19
>>maxeri+Px
Some guy comes into your restaurant and eats a meal. Pays cash. Leaves. He was a sanctioned Russian. You're now subject to charges from the state of Minnesota?
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7. maxeri+YZ[view] [source] 2026-01-24 23:35:11
>>hdgvhi+7W
Yes, you appear to see the point I am making.
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8. direwo+As2[view] [source] 2026-01-25 14:53:17
>>maxeri+YZ
It's not a real point. It's only illegal to support a sanctioned person if you know or should have known they were sanctioned.
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9. maxeri+2y2[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:25:47
>>direwo+As2
Yeah you aren't getting the point. I'm not saying that the proprietor would be at risk for unfair prosecution, I'm saying the policy would be useless because it is easy to avoid if you don't take it to an absurd extreme.

I guess I should have spelled it out in the initial comment.

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10. direwo+OP2[view] [source] 2026-01-25 17:20:03
>>maxeri+2y2
There's already a law against helping a criminal flee a crime scene, but the criminal may still buy a train ticket and the train company isn't liable unless he told them he was a criminal, but anyone who knew he was a criminal and helped him anyway goes to jail. This is nothing new.
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11. maxeri+SY2[view] [source] 2026-01-25 18:13:57
>>direwo+OP2
No, I mean that it wouldn't hamper ICE all that much unless you took it to an extreme. An onerous policy inflicted on the people of Minnesota that accomplished little in the way of disrupting federal operations.
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12. direwo+wl3[view] [source] 2026-01-25 20:36:54
>>maxeri+SY2
I think it would. They crashed out over a single cancelled hotel reservation. These aren't hardened troops that can set up a bivouac in a random clearing, they're accustomed to all the niceties of modern life. If all hotels refused to serve them, if they couldn't buy groceries because their cards were declined, if the state blockaded their detention centers, they'd find their job much harder.
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