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1. oxqbld+28[view] [source] 2026-01-15 15:28:50
>>fajmcc+(OP)
And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.
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2. stackg+Z9[view] [source] 2026-01-15 15:34:56
>>oxqbld+28
This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions.

The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

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3. bright+oo[view] [source] 2026-01-15 16:22:04
>>stackg+Z9
I'm going to defend the HN "no politics" rule here.

The reason "no politics" zones exist is because there are enough people going out of their way to shout at everybody, everywhere, in every corner of the internet and enough people are tired of it that they flock to...no politics zones. In real life, a person like that confronts you...you remove yourself from the situation, because that person who can't stop shouting at everybody comes across as nuts.

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4. pstuar+kH[view] [source] 2026-01-15 17:29:21
>>bright+oo
There's a vast difference between tribal partisan politics and discussing policy as a system of governance (hacking society). I do my best to avoid the former and embrace the latter.

That said, there's a disappointingly significant number of HN members who hew to the latter and embrace the current regime. I consider this to be a forum of intellectual engagement, and that those people walk amongst us is quite distressing.

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5. bright+EL[view] [source] 2026-01-15 17:47:15
>>pstuar+kH
The “those people” comment is kinda the issue though isn’t it?

I generally try to assume that everyone has good intentions, but we’re all being fed massive amounts of different information. I learned years ago that it wasn’t an issue of people reporting things that were factually inaccurate, it was an issue of people leaving out details to frame the story in the context that supports your readers/viewers belief system.

And then there are the Stanford studies like this:

>>46553818

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6. pstuar+v01[view] [source] 2026-01-15 18:50:24
>>bright+EL
That's why I prefaced it with "That said" as an acknowledgement of calling out a different tribe.

There's a nuance to this -- the current political environment is not normal and cannot be emphasized enough. The GOP is now a cult of personality and there is no allegiance to country by its members. Its all to one man, who many believe is wholly unqualified for the job.

Its a well-documented phenomenon that millions of people have joined this cult -- many coming from the other side of the aisle. There is no possible reasoning, dialog, or engagement that can make them reconsider.

I would be classified as a "Lefty" if evaluated on my values, but I actually believe in the value of old school conservatism as of "limited government", the value of families, and the ability to have their own personal relationship with God (I am an atheist but I get it).

One of the things that makes America great is the Constitution -- that we are ostensibly a nation governed by law. The current regime does not share those values and is actively hostile to all who do not worship or pay tribute to their leader.

I've been following US politics for half a century and what's happening now would have been unthinkable even 10 years ago.

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