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1. andrew+z7[view] [source] 2026-01-15 15:27:10
>>fajmcc+(OP)
For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in the state.

> In the past week alone, ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements from his car, slammed him to the ground and detained him at the Whipple Federal Building near Fort Snelling for 10 hours. A 51-year-old teacher patrolling the Nokomis East community told the Star Tribune she was run off the road into a snowbank by ICE for laying on her horn. Officers shattered the car window of a woman attempting to drive past a raid in south Minneapolis to get to a doctor’s appointment nearby, then carried her through the street. Feds pushed an unidentified motorist through a red light into a busy intersection, reportedly fired projectiles at a pedestrian walking “too slowly” in a crosswalk and shoved Minneapolis City Council President Elliott Payne while he was observing their actions from a public sidewalk.

You can read the full thing here: https://www.startribune.com/have-yall-not-learned-federal-ag...

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2. embedd+At[view] [source] 2026-01-15 16:41:01
>>andrew+z7
If all those things happened in Spain where I live, I'm 99% we'd have actual riots on the streets, together with a lot of other unpleasant-but-needed civilian action, until things got better, like we've done in the past (sometimes maybe went slightly overboard with it, but better than nothing).

Why are Americans so passive? You're literally transitioning into straight up authoritarianism, yet where are the riots? How are you not fighting back with more than whistles and blocking them in cars? Is there more stuff actually happening on the ground, but there simply isn't any videos of it, or are people really this passive in the land of the free?

Are people inside the country not getting the same news we're getting on the outside? Are you not witnessing your government carrying out extra-judicial murders and then being protected by that same government? I'm really lost trying to understand how the average person (like you reading this) isn't out on the streets trying to defend what I thought your country was all about.

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3. breakp+Fv[view] [source] 2026-01-15 16:48:57
>>embedd+At
American life is so much more distributed than European life.

Population density and the gigantic geographic distance make these kinds of events feel "remote" even if they are happening in our same state.

It's a 17 hour drive from Atlanta, Georgia to Minneapolis for example.

On top of that, a lot of Americans are just barely surviving financially, so they are in full bunker mode just making rent.

It's a scary time to rebel.

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4. embedd+Uw[view] [source] 2026-01-15 16:53:21
>>breakp+Fv
> American life is so much more distributed than European life.

It isn't though, Google Maps estimate going West>East coast in the US to take 44 hours (pure driving without stops), and puts going from the South of Spain to the North of Sweden to take 50 hours, more or less the same.

Then Europe is a bunch of countries, most of them speaking different languages, with way more difference in culture than the states of the US. I'm not sure it matters though, it really isn't relevant, but probably the wrong thing to bring up regardless, when the reality looks the opposite than you seem to think.

FWIW, when the (last) civil war in Spain happened, you had volunteer civilians coming from Sweden (among other countries) to defend their ideals, even if it wasn't their fight, completely different culture and language. But if you care about something bigger than yourself, then you act.

"My country is large" isn't an excuse to not stand up against tyranny, not sure in what world it would be.

The whole "just barely surviving financially" sucks though, especially considering the poor labor movements and almost non-existing union support, and poor grassroot organization. It always felt weird and artificially suppressed, but without those thing, it certainly seems easier to take over an entire country. Hope others learned their lessons with this.

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5. Sigmun+WH[view] [source] 2026-01-15 17:30:36
>>embedd+Uw
>South of Spain to the North of Sweden to take 50 hours, more or less the same.

That would be like driving from Key West to Prudhoe Bay which looks to be 91 hours.

Sorry the US is big spread out place, but I also agree it's not really an excuse for what's happening.

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6. embedd+GR[view] [source] 2026-01-15 18:15:03
>>Sigmun+WH
> That would be like driving from Key West to Prudhoe Bay which looks to be 91 hours.

Haha, yeah, at least I got a laugh from it, thank you :) A fair comparison then I guess would be from Canary Islands to Svalbard, if we're aiming to make it as far as possible to make some imaginary point no one cares about :)

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7. KAMSPi+hS[view] [source] 2026-01-15 18:18:09
>>embedd+GR
Well if we're including islands then Hawai'i is pretty far away...
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