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1. spaceb+ab[view] [source] 2026-01-13 13:50:35
>>robthe+(OP)
This is how you govern from a position of unpopularity.

The government knows they’re on the wrong side of many issues, to the point they know they can’t win an open debate.

So media control, regulation by enforcement, and institutional control becomes the focus of effort.

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2. geremi+Wc[view] [source] 2026-01-13 14:00:23
>>spaceb+ab
There seems to be a prevalent notion within UK establishment circles, "we are being attacked from both sides, therefore we must be right/balanced/fair", which is totally not how it works. You see used for example to defend the supposed impartiality of the BBC.
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3. iamnot+mo[view] [source] 2026-01-13 14:50:51
>>geremi+Wc
The problem isn’t the balance, it’s the police state. I don’t want an authoritarian Left government any more than I want an authoritarian Right or Center government.
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4. JCatth+IC[view] [source] 2026-01-13 15:52:46
>>iamnot+mo
The problem is most Brits, at least on HN, seem to deny what is happening and/or support it. People being arrested for holding up blank signs at Charles' coronation was ridiculous and nothing like it has happened in the US, but anytime that's brought up they pivot to mass shootings in the US or some other whataboutism.
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5. tdeck+X51[view] [source] 2026-01-13 17:31:05
>>JCatth+IC
I was curious about the "blank sign" story because it's slightly different from what I remembered reading. As far as I can tell, this is the incident you're referring to:

    On 12 September, Charles addressed parliament as king for the first time. The Metropolitan police called in reinforcements in case of protests. Powlesland, who works nearby, walked from Parliament Square to Downing Street and back with his blank piece of paper. “Then a guy from Norfolk police came up and spoke to me, and that was the video that went viral.” Powlesland recorded the encounter on his phone. “He asked for my details, I asked why and he said, ‘I want to check you’re OK on the Police National Computer.’ I said, ‘I’ve not done anything wrong, so I’m not giving you them.’ I wanted to test it without getting arrested. So I asked, ‘If I wrote “Not my king” on the paper, would I get arrested?’ and he said, ‘Probably, because it would be a breach of the Public Order Act; it would be offensive.’” Was he right? Powlesland laughs. “No! Just having something someone else finds offensive is not a criminal offence because then pretty much anything could be.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/29/the-crowd-we...
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6. JCatth+YQ1[view] [source] 2026-01-13 20:20:59
>>tdeck+X51
I'm glad that was only a single instance, I had misremebered it as being multiple. I think the bigger isser then is people arrested for holding up signs saying "not my king" or similar, of which there were at least 64[0].

[0] https://hnksolicitors.com/news/met-police-regrets-coronation...

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