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1. zahlma+62[view] [source] 2026-01-13 00:49:44
>>woggy+(OP)
This has already been flagged and killed:

>>46595868

It's interesting to me that submissions like this routinely get a dozen or so upvotes very quickly, on what is transparently a very politically inciting headline promising a contentious political editorial.

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2. woggy+z3[view] [source] 2026-01-13 01:01:57
>>zahlma+62
What's interesting to me is how little this whole situation is being talked about here. Not a single topic on the front page while ICE agents are routinely pulling people (including US citizens) out of cars, breaking into houses and shooting people on the street.
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3. zahlma+15[view] [source] 2026-01-13 01:14:35
>>woggy+z3
It's talked about plenty. >>46547612 from just the other day got nearly 400 upvotes and 200 comments.

"including US citizens" is weasel wording here. ICE operates on reasonable suspicion, as they are legally entitled to do. Furthermore, they are federal LEO, and as such may arrest people they know to be US citizens if those citizens commit federal crimes.

This is all quite clear in the law, and even reported by left-wing sources in the same breath that they claim the footage contradicts things that I (from watching it myself) believe it reasonably supports (subjective rhetoric aside). In particular, the victim in the recent case was "blocking the path of an officer’s vehicle", which the SF Chronicle explicitly calls out as valid cause for such an arrest.

LEOs tend to shoot at those who resist arrest in a manner that endangers their lives. That endangerment is not required to be itself an attempt at murder.

The other thing I find interesting is that the officers were not masked in this case, contra the usual narrative.

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4. lcnPyl+nm1[view] [source] 2026-01-13 14:16:59
>>zahlma+15
> ICE operates on reasonable suspicion, as they are legally entitled to do.

Speaking of weasel words, "reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime" is a higher standard than you imply. It requires the officer to be able to articulate their reason for suspecting a specific crime. Huh, crime is a funny word, actually. Did you know that overstaying a visa is a civil offense? But I guess it's possible, though perhaps not reasonable to suspect, that she crossed the border illegally.

So, if that's the crime, the agent would need to articulate their reason for suspecting that the woman had illegally crossed the border. Did he ever articulate that reasoning? Did he ever even articulate the crime?

> LEOs tend to shoot at those who resist arrest in a manner that endangers their lives.

Oh, I guess we'll just ignore all that "RAS" stuff, then. If that's the case, the agent didn't have the authority to arrest the woman at all. So, rather than resisting arrest, she was defending herself from an unlawful assaulter (with the intention not to kill, as you seem to admit in another comment). And the assaulter, in a fit of rage from seeing her attempted escape, shot her in the head three times to, er "defend himself" from a moving vehicle.

Honestly, I've read enough of your comments to know you're not stupid. Why go to such lengths to defend these actions of the agent in question? Do you really not think the agent should be expected to behave more professionally? Regardless of the fear he felt, I don't believe you simply can't see how he needlessly escalated the situation well before the woman tried to drive away.

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