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1. cadams+Lj[view] [source] 2026-01-11 19:38:45
>>dang+nZ
Dear mods. I know it isn’t you - but it’s a shame to see this flagged. Seems some people wish they only needed to think about complexity in space and time but not complexity in society.

Flagging as silent protest won’t progress the debate because the issues and reasons don’t get discussed, people just object. If people dislike the direction HN is going they should be encouraged to speak up so everyone can talk through it.

Perhaps we need to reset community norms around flagging?

2. LexiMa+Dl[view] [source] 2026-01-11 19:48:02
>>cadams+Lj
I have seen very little evidence that bad-faith flagging is actually punished at any appreciable scale on this site.

Either the flagging tools are too easy to get hold of for new users, or the culture of flagging on this site is positively rotten due to the lack of enforcement or a too-specific definition of what "bad faith" is.

Gamified moderation tools require oversight.

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3. hn_thr+eA[view] [source] 2026-01-11 21:10:51
>>LexiMa+Dl
I think many people have a fundamental misunderstanding of what and why people flag on this site. And as someone who also used to have this misunderstanding, I'll explain how I changed my mind on this topic.

A lot of people view flagging as "that is a troll post/comment" or "that was made in bad faith". But I think another reason many people flag is "this topic is highly unlikely to generate any useful discussion" or "this topic may be fine for discussion, but not on HN".

FWIW, I disagree with the flagging in this instance. Most importantly, I did learn something useful in the comments (the bit about how Apple previously almost banned Tumbler due to unintentional CSAM). But I also don't really begrudge folks who voted to flag. Political topics always have a lower bar for flagging IMO, because they nearly always devolve into useless tribal warfare - useless tribal warfare that you can easily get in spades on nearly any other forum/social media site online. And just look at the comments on this post. Most of them I'd characterize as generally uninsightful, and even disregarding my opinion, tons of the comments here are downvoted. So if some folks are a little too trigger happy to flag because they're at least trying to keep HN's uniquely high value discussions, I don't really blame them.

So while I disagree with the flagging in this instance, I also disagree that HN generally has a problem with bad-faith flagging.

4. dang+nZ[view] [source] 2026-01-11 23:31:13
>>chmayn+(OP)
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