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1. schmuc+54[view] [source] 2026-01-07 17:37:52
>>atestu+(OP)
Speaking from personal experience, this is consistent with multiple doctors over the years recommending high-protein, low carb diets. (Clarification: low does not mean no carb.)

I don't understand people freaking out over this - outside of a purely political reflex - hell hath no fury like taking away nerds' Mountain Dew and Flamin' Hot Cheetos.

Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP - candy and sugary drinks are no longer eligible.

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2. baggac+441[view] [source] 2026-01-07 21:39:57
>>schmuc+54
> Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP - candy and sugary drinks are no longer eligible.

I can think of one issue here. Ultra-processed foods, candy, and sugary drinks are cheap and shelf-stable. They're cheap because they're subsidized. Fruits and vegetables are more expensive, and they don't last very long. So a person on a very limited SNAP budget will get less food under the new restrictions.

The answer, of course, is to make it so that fresh produce and other healthy options are cheaper than the junk food. I have a hard time seeing that happening, given how susceptible the administration is to being "lobbied".

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3. shuntr+791[view] [source] 2026-01-07 21:59:45
>>baggac+441
The actual issue is that "Ultra-Processed" is EXTREMELY broad and vague.

For example, hot dogs are ultra-processed. Obviously hot dogs are not the healthiest food but also obviously "franks and beans" is a pretty good meal for a tight budget and is something you should be able to get with SNAP.

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4. sublin+kV1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 02:58:13
>>shuntr+791
Franks and beans are not the best meal on the cheap. Sounds more expensive than cooking fresh and you're missing out on better nutrition.

For the most bang for your buck you want to be eating less expensive real protein like chicken and pork and filling up on salads. Limit carb intake from beans and other starches. Prefer fruit for carbs because it has fiber and vitamins you can't get anywhere else.

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5. shuntr+mC3[view] [source] 2026-01-08 16:42:17
>>sublin+kV1
You are preposterously out-of-touch with reality here. "Filling up on salads" is healthy but it is FAR from the most "bang for your buck". And are seriously trying to say that beans aren't a good source of fiber and vitamins?

Sure you shouldn't eat hot dogs and baked beans three meals a day every day but you are absolutely out of your mind if you think cheap sausage and canned beans are bad to have in the house when you are struggling.

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6. sublin+pL3[view] [source] 2026-01-08 17:25:49
>>shuntr+mC3
Oh well I guess I must have dreamed when I was broke and hungry.

In all seriousness, canned food is way more expensive than buying a pork butt and chicken. I don't think you read what I originally wrote.

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7. shuntr+nD4[view] [source] 2026-01-08 21:56:29
>>sublin+pL3
I am reading what you wrote and disputing it but you don't seem to want to hear it.

I am saying that denying the sale of all "ULTRA PROCESSED" foods to people receiving food assistance is NOT helpful because deciding what counts as "ultra-processed" is too messy and imprecise.

You are trying to split hairs over the most cost-effective struggle meals.

I can indulge you.

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Perdue Young Whole Chicken Fresh (~5lb) = $12.49

Oscar Mayer Original Uncured Turkey Chicken & Pork Wieners (10 count) $4.49 + 3x Bush's Best Original Baked Beans (16 oz.) $7.47 ($2.49 ea.) = 11.96 total

You eat half a can of beans and one hot dog per meal. That's six meals and four extra hot dogs you can do whatever else you want with.

You can definitely get six meals out of a whole chicken but it's going to be a lot more work plus the additional 50c cost (and that's ignoring the value of the four extra hot dogs). 1 hot dog + 8oz of beans is going to be a fairly similar portion to 1/6th the recoverable meat from a 5lb bird.

It should obviously go without saying but, since you seem to be a stickler, I should point out that there is nothing stopping you from eating chicken one week then frank & beans the next. Variety is the biggest part of a healthy diet.

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8. sublin+KG4[view] [source] 2026-01-08 22:16:21
>>shuntr+nD4
Your body doesn't care about the weight of the food nor the quantity of items in the package.

You eat calories and process nutrients. You can make a lot more meals and a wider variety of recipes with a whole chicken than a pack of hot dogs.

Anyone who shops like you described is not being efficient with their money as long as they have their own kitchen. Poverty is a lot of possible scenarios. I'm not saying they're dumb or anything.

Nutrition is hard to think about when tempted by the modern convenient grocery store with limited money. Unit price has a way of messing with your head. I also get the practicality of having packaged and shelf stable food when you lack access to a freezer and can't stay somewhere for too long. It is what it is.

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