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1. kristo+fO1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 02:03:09
>>atestu+(OP)
Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK...

Here's industry reports

https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm...

https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio...

And straight up lobbying groups

https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline...

https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p...

Lobbying groups, putting out press releases, claiming victory...

Here's some things you won't find in any of the documents, including the PDFs at the bottom: community gardens, local food, farmers markets, grass fed, free range... Because agribusiness doesn't make money with those.

Just because you might like the results doesn't mean they aren't corrupt as hell

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2. nhumri+vQ1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 02:17:34
>>kristo+fO1
Might be corrupt, but is at least closer to truth then the last corrupted version. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of progress
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3. didibu+aX1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 03:15:06
>>nhumri+vQ1
Is it? The change in recommendation is to have less veggies in favor of more meat. From all the recent research and meta studies I've seen it doesn't track.

It's still decent a guidance, but the previous one was as well.

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4. kristo+UX1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 03:21:45
>>didibu+aX1
And that's going to dictate nationwide purchasing policies for things the the 30 million school lunch meals, million prisoners...

This is worth millions of dollars a day and we're sold it as common wisdom from the mom and pop country doctor.

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5. troupo+ag2[view] [source] 2026-01-08 06:32:52
>>kristo+UX1
Kids in the US will no longer be served reheated pizza and chocolate milk?

Whatever the incentives, go for it

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6. genewi+gr2[view] [source] 2026-01-08 08:17:01
>>troupo+ag2
the rectangular pizzas were never "reheated". i have copies of the recipe cards to make enough trays of pizza to feed a school using the industrial kitchen appliances they have in schools.

and whatever your issue is with chocolate milk, can you link a recent survey that shows the percentage of say, americans, that have had 1 or more glasses of water in the last month? a glass being at least 8floz (1/4 liter or so)

i'm leaning toward "most people don't drink enough, if any, water; furthermore most people are probably varying levels of dehydrated", at least in the US. The fad of carrying water with you everywhere was lambasted into obscurity, at least in the american south. Anecdotally, many people have told me they drink 64 ounces a day, because diet coke counts and so does beer.

that a kid is getting a fortified delicious drink they enjoy is fine by me.

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7. troupo+cB2[view] [source] 2026-01-08 09:53:43
>>genewi+gr2
In a lot of schools "industrial equipment" is used to reheat frozen foods.

As for chicolate milk: there's probably as much added sugar in it as in a can of Cola. Definitely not something kids should consume daily.

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8. astura+X23[view] [source] 2026-01-08 13:53:05
>>troupo+cB2
>As for chicolate milk: there's probably as much added sugar in it as in a can of Cola

There's no way this is true, so I looked up nutrition facts-

A 12oz can of coke has 39g added sugars and chocolate milk has 6 grams added sugars for the small cartons they have at schools.

This is the first chocolate milk I found - https://www.kleinpeterdairy.com/products/fresh-delicious-mil...

In other words, coke has more than six times the added sugar as chocolate milk in containers that they are readily available in.

Btw, Mountain Dew has 46 grams sugar per can.

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9. troupo+S33[view] [source] 2026-01-08 13:58:11
>>astura+X23
According to https://www.usdairy.com/news-articles/how-much-sugar-is-in-m...

Milk Sugar Content (per 8 oz. serving): 24 grams sugar (12 grams natural sugar, 12 grams added sugar)

According to https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-types/how-does-su...:

    Adults should have no more than 30g of free sugars a day,
    (roughly equivalent to 7 sugar cubes).

    Children aged 7 to 10 should have no more than 24g
    of free sugars a day (6 sugar cubes).
So one small carton they have at school has 30% of an adult's daily intake of added sugar.
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10. astura+B43[view] [source] 2026-01-08 14:02:17
>>troupo+S33
What's your point? What does that have anything to do with the comment you're responding to?
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11. troupo+063[view] [source] 2026-01-08 14:11:24
>>astura+B43
My point is that no, chocolate milk isn't healthy at all.
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