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1. kristo+fO1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 02:03:09
>>atestu+(OP)
Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK...

Here's industry reports

https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm...

https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio...

And straight up lobbying groups

https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline...

https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p...

Lobbying groups, putting out press releases, claiming victory...

Here's some things you won't find in any of the documents, including the PDFs at the bottom: community gardens, local food, farmers markets, grass fed, free range... Because agribusiness doesn't make money with those.

Just because you might like the results doesn't mean they aren't corrupt as hell

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2. hiQloI+dW1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 03:06:12
>>kristo+fO1
No reason to believe their numbers either given the shenanigans they have engaged in.

We need to be smart and not knee jerk into feel good memes though. Local gardens and community gardens have higher resource use per acre than large farm ops. Commercial farm infrastructure is far more resilient and lasts longer while consumer gardening gear is cheap and disposable. Consumer gardening gear manufacturers factories burn tons of resources to crank out tons of low quality kit, consumers burn through piles of it. That's not sustainable either.

Plus you really want the average American dumping chemicals in community ground water to grow the biggest pumpkin in the zip code?

Americans need to find common ground on the path forward not fragment into tens of millions of little resource intensive potato farmers

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3. bamboo+u62[view] [source] 2026-01-08 04:52:33
>>hiQloI+dW1
That's how Japan works...how horrendous ?
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4. brigan+4c2[view] [source] 2026-01-08 05:51:22
>>bamboo+u62
Japan is not a model to follow.
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5. bamboo+pe2[view] [source] 2026-01-08 06:17:36
>>brigan+4c2
Been doing it the same way for centuries so, care to elaborate on what's wrong with how they farm?

Also, just because their setup isn't optimal, doesn't mean it's the cause for some ecological crisis like you seem to be implying. I live in Japan, I watch people farm every year, there is very little going on that makes me suspect there is some wide-spread ecological damage being done by people who want to grow massive pumpkins, even though, people do grow massive pumpkins.

You telling everyone that gardening is bad for the environment is interesting because I absolutely cannot imagine what is worse for the environment than the industrial scale monocrop style farming that goes on most developed countries. Like, holy shit...

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6. spider+On2[view] [source] 2026-01-08 07:43:44
>>bamboo+pe2
People need to eat and industrial scale farming is what enables us to make enough, affordable food.

It has plenty downsides. But it’s a brilliant and truly efficient system that is being perfected by thousands of scientists and it has prevented hunger and chaos for decades now.

If you want to see real change, people would need to have way more time, be less lazy, have more money and be less demanding when it comes to variety and availability.

In other words, it’s easier to keep perfecting the system we have because it’s easier to change procedures than it is to change people.

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