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1. kristo+fO1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 02:03:09
>>atestu+(OP)
Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK...

Here's industry reports

https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm...

https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio...

And straight up lobbying groups

https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline...

https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p...

Lobbying groups, putting out press releases, claiming victory...

Here's some things you won't find in any of the documents, including the PDFs at the bottom: community gardens, local food, farmers markets, grass fed, free range... Because agribusiness doesn't make money with those.

Just because you might like the results doesn't mean they aren't corrupt as hell

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2. nhumri+vQ1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 02:17:34
>>kristo+fO1
Might be corrupt, but is at least closer to truth then the last corrupted version. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of progress
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3. kristo+zR1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 02:26:01
>>nhumri+vQ1
The incentives are wrong. Any good policy for bad incentives is temporary and incidental

This policy selectively emphasizes the most difficult to import foods so it also plays into isolationist nativist policies.

If you think meat lobbying groups just wanted a new triangle and this isn't going to extend to water, land, energy, and environmental policies along with farm subsidies and even merger&acquisition and liability policies, sorry ...

This thing is for them, their profitability and their investors. They didn't lobby on behalf of your personal health...

Open a position on the MOO ETF. I just did. Might as well make some money from it

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4. frinxo+WW1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 03:12:06
>>kristo+zR1
wrong incentives, good outcomes? is there a world where the long term outcomes are also good, or at least much better than the current ones?

also, hi there! (da from oblong)

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5. kristo+lZ1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 03:34:10
>>frinxo+WW1
Sure. What about the public citizen efforts for crumple zone and seat belts in the 1960s?

Or are you saying bad incentives, good long term outcomes?

Maybe Napoleon's rework of Paris? That was done to control public dissidents but it also made it a beautiful city.

Mass timekeeping? Those were adopted for industrial labor... Seems to be quite useful

Joint stock ownership was I think invented for the slave trade but that's proven to be generally useful.

I think magnetic audio tape was made practical for a deceitful technique by the Nazis for claiming to be broadcasting live on the radio after they had fled...

In each of these instances though the thing long outlived the initial user

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