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1. giveme+Wg[view] [source] 2025-12-22 17:53:35
>>chaps+(OP)
At what point does the top brass at Flock get arrested?
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2. gruez+Al[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:16:37
>>giveme+Wg
For what? Under current jurisprudence collecting license plates images isn't illegal, because there's no expectation of privacy in public. They could post the information online if they wanted to and they'd be in the clear. It's fine to object to ANPR networks on the basis of "mass surveillance" or whatever, but screaming for people to be arrested without legal basis, just because you don't like what they're doing is childish and counterproductive to the conversation.
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3. array_+sz[view] [source] 2025-12-22 19:20:22
>>gruez+Al
I mean, stalking is very clearly illegal.

The main issue is that we have a different set of laws that govern businesses and that govern private citizens.

If I set up a camera in a local park and programmed it to zoom into children's faces and stream it directly to my computer, I am surely going to jail.

But if I set up 100 cameras to do just that, baby, that's just business.

It's almost paradoxical. The more evil I do, the less illegal it becomes. The greater the scale of harm I inflict, the more palatable it is. It's a get out of jail free card.

Are you a psychopath? Love to kill people? Well, don't use knives or guns silly! Instead, form an LLC and give people poison. You'll kill 100x more people with 100x less consequences!

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4. charci+ZL[view] [source] 2025-12-22 20:20:18
>>array_+sz
Stalking is not illegal at all.
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5. array_+TQ1[view] [source] 2025-12-23 05:21:13
>>charci+ZL
Stalking is very illegal in most US jurisdictions.
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6. charci+IV1[view] [source] 2025-12-23 06:32:40
>>array_+TQ1
Maybe if you are threatening someone. But if you are just following someone in public, that is okay.
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7. wyre+BT2[view] [source] 2025-12-23 16:33:46
>>charci+IV1
Stalking is not "just following someone".

From Stalking Prevention, Awareness, & Resource Center (SPARC): " A pattern of behavior directed at a specific person that would cause a reasonable person to fear for the person’s safety or the safety of others; or suffer substantial emotional distress."

https://www.stalkingawareness.org/definition-faqs/

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