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>>chaps+(OP)
I wonder what our founders would think about tools like Flock.

From what I understand these systems are legal because there is no expectation of privacy in public. Therefore any time you go in public you cannot expect NOT to be tracked, photographed, and entered into a database (which may now outlive us).

I think the argument comes from the 1st amendment.

Weaponizing the Bill of Rights (BoR) for the government against the people does not seem to align with my understanding of why the Bill of Rights was cemented into our constitution in the first place.

I wonder what Adams or Madison would make of it. I wonder if Benjamin Franklin would be appalled.

I wonder if they'd consider every license plate reading a violation of the 4th amendment.

>>fusslo+nx
I think you should try to decide for yourself what to make of the situation instead of wondering what some ancient dead old dudes would think.

>>amroch+wc1
It is possible to have your own thoughts and also wonder what other people think.

>>unclad+Yd1
If that was the case then you should wonder what Descartes would think. What Derrida or Baudrillard would think. We both know it’s not about that though.

>>amroch+hh1
Wondering what the people who created the government think of the current government is massively different than wondering what either of two French philosophers who never participated in statecraft born 150 years later thinks.

It is perfectly normal to wonder what the architect of a system thinks of the current system, and entirely separate from wondering what a pair of unrelated Frenchman think of that system. Even if they are just “some ancient dead old dudes”.

>>dghlsa+cB1
These guys made a constitution that says all men are free, except for slaves and women because they’re obviously not men. This led to a civil war just a couple decades later. I think it’s pretty clear that they didn’t really know what they were doing. In fact, that’s why they gave you the tools to change the laws of the country.