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1. kklisu+2m[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:17:52
>>chaps+(OP)
For more context here Flock Safety is a YC-backed company [1][2]

[1] https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety

[2] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1856016868580151615

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2. riboso+UN[view] [source] 2025-12-22 20:28:08
>>kklisu+2m
I wonder if that's why this post, with more upvotes than a number of the other ones on the front page, has seemingly vanished from it.
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3. dang+p41[view] [source] 2025-12-22 22:01:53
>>riboso+UN
No, it's the other way around. This post is ranked higher on the frontpage than it would be if it weren't YC-related. (In fact, it probably wouldn't be on the frontpage at all in that case.)

A core principle is that we moderate less, not more, when YC or a YC-funded startup is part of the story. Many past explanations: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

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4. LexiMa+xa1[view] [source] 2025-12-22 22:41:34
>>dang+p41
I believe you when you say that nobody at YC put their thumb on the scale for this story in particular.

However, YC very much has control over the algorithm used to rank stories on the Hacker News front page, and this algorithm very commonly downranks threads which are detected as being "controversial."

If the algorithm "working as intended" consistently downranks stories that cast a bad light on YCombinator, the sorts of people y'all mingle with, or the tech industry in general...is that any better than putting your thumb on the scale?

This is kind of why I feel obligated to use https://news.ycombinator.com/active - after all, it's a very good indication of what Hacker News' algorithm and certain cohorts of its readership wants to hide from the casual viewer. And given the sorts of stories it tends to hide, it doesn't reflect well on this site or its users.

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5. culi+of1[view] [source] 2025-12-22 23:11:20
>>LexiMa+xa1
dang won't like me sharing this repo (sorry!) but hn-undocumented has a relevant section on this:

https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented?tab=re...

> Currently, there is no evidence that non-job submissions about a YC startup receive preferential treatment on the front page, or kill submissions critical of a YC startup. In fact, the moderators have stated that they explicitly avoid killing controversial YC posts when possible.

And also:

> Additionally, founders of YC companies see each other's usernames show up in orange, which — although not an explicit benefit — does allow fellow YC founders to immediately identify one another in discussions.

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