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1. maerF0+ym[view] [source] 2025-12-22 17:44:34
>>karako+(OP)
As a taxpayer I'm tired of funding everyone's project. Especially in private institutions which have billions under management and are ran like hedge funds, and not increasing their intake. Time to fix the deficit and kill off our debt.

If the rebuttal is "yeah but advancements improve the economy" -- The private sector can fund projects which are opportunities with an economic basis, they can take the risk and they can see if it is profitable in the market (ie beneficial)

If the rebuttal is "How will America stay competitive?" We cant seem to keep trade secrets anyways. [1]

[1] - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-64206950

Edit: Also the 4 years at a time thing is probably a better choice too, because it makes them less twitchy politically. You get your 4 years, regardless of who's team is in office. This should be a win regardless of your affiliation.

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2. biophy+Ao[view] [source] 2025-12-22 17:53:38
>>maerF0+ym
How are we going to produce all of the basic research that is non-excludable & non-rival? What incentive do companies have to produce results like this?

The biotech industry is already tricky, with long lag times and a low probability of success. More risk just increases the discount rate and lowers the present value, making it an even less appealing investment.

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3. maerF0+ys[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:13:43
>>biophy+Ao
Capital will seek the best opportunities, let's keep the incentive structure sane. Which means first tackling the biggest problems, with the highest probability of success, for the most people. As the opportunity space is explored or saturated, we'll move on to lower EROI opportunities. By getting the highest EROI initially we'l be richer still for chasing down philanthropic spaces (for the opportunities which do not make economic sense, but make moral, humanitarian sense)
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4. fzeror+ku[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:20:58
>>maerF0+ys
Capital seeks the best opportunities, like deliberately lying about asbestos in baby powder, producing fraudulent research and continuing to profit off poisoning individuals.
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5. milton+lz[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:45:07
>>fzeror+ku
Don't forget tobacco companies lying about cancer and oil and gas companies hiding climate change research.
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6. maerF0+mD[view] [source] 2025-12-22 19:04:50
>>milton+lz
Sure, but that is an issue of ethics and regulation. Fraud is illegal and should be punished proportionally to it's effects.
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7. bulbar+BP[view] [source] 2025-12-22 20:00:23
>>maerF0+mD
Capital doesn't seek the best opportunity, it can only seek the best monetary opportunity and that can involve fraud or products that are bad for society.

Without market-independent research you often wouldn't even realize that is what's going on.

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