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1. kklisu+2m[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:17:52
>>chaps+(OP)
For more context here Flock Safety is a YC-backed company [1][2]

[1] https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety

[2] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1856016868580151615

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2. kklisu+6o[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:27:04
>>kklisu+2m
And let me share this reply by Garry Tan, CEO of YC, after someone made a comment that Flock might be _pretty dystopian_ [1][2]:

> You're thinking Chinese surveillance

> US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims

[1] https://x.com/neurajordan/status/1963303084609966288

[2] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

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3. leeoni+dr[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:42:21
>>kklisu+6o
> You're thinking Chinese surveillance

the big irony, of course, is that i'm much more comfortable with China surveilling me than the US, since the latter can throw me in jail, seize my assets, and ruin my family's life, while the former cannot.

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4. afavou+zu[view] [source] 2025-12-22 18:58:06
>>leeoni+dr
The US government is a democracy and can be replaced should it exceed people’s limits. The CCP… uh, not so much.

I’m not trying to say the US government is faultless but it amazes me how often I see this kind of anti-democratic institition sentiment.

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5. freeon+oH[view] [source] 2025-12-22 19:56:57
>>afavou+zu
It’s not anti-democratic, it’s simply a matter of exposure. China can WANT to do whatever they want to me, but I have no assets in China, no trade in China, and neither me nor anyone close to me will ever go to China. So it simply matters a lot less what China has on me than the country where I have friends, loved ones, financial assets, property, and frequently visit.
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