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1. dang+zk[view] [source] 2025-12-17 18:09:25
>>uyzstv+(OP)
Yes, sorry! We're investigating, but my current theory is we got overloaded because I relaxed some of our anti-crawler protections a few days ago.

(The reason I did that is that the anti-crawler protections also unfortunately hit some legit users, and we don't want to block legit users. However, it seems that I turned the knobs down too far.)

In this case, though, we had a secondary failure: PagerDuty woke me up at 5:24am, I checked HN and it seemed fine, so I told PagerDuty the problem was resolved. But the problem wasn't resolved - at that point I was just sleeping through it.

I'll add more as we find out more, but it probably won't be till later this afternoon PST.

Edit: later than I expected, but for those still following, the main things I've learned are (1) pkill wasn't able to kill SBCL this time - we have a script that does that when HN stops responding, but it didn't work, so we'll revise the script; and (2) how to get PagerDuty not to let you go back to sleep if your site is actually still down.

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2. irishc+Oy[view] [source] 2025-12-17 19:10:41
>>dang+zk
> The reason I did that is that the anti-crawler protections also unfortunately hit some legit users

How does this happen?

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3. Bender+wC[view] [source] 2025-12-17 19:27:43
>>irishc+Oy
How does this happen?

Not the person you are asking. Bot operators have an incentive to make crawlers look as much like a human as possible so they do not get blocked. Some of them fail miserably and some nearly succeed. That makes it trivial to accidentally block a real person. I am personally fine with that given I do not pay for this site and have no SLA or contract with it.

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4. arccy+tL[view] [source] 2025-12-17 20:09:58
>>Bender+wC
some humans also try their best to make themselves look like bots...
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5. Imusta+KL[view] [source] 2025-12-17 20:11:41
>>arccy+tL
beep boop.
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