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>>theamk+(OP)
>Systems marketed for "solving crimes" get used for immigration enforcement

So for solving crimes.

I'm in favor, then!

>>snigsn+rx1
I think you don’t have to look far to find warrantless arrests or illegal detentions under the guise of “immigration enforcement.” I also think you’d be hard pressed to point to a crime in those instances.

>>bichil+yA1
The ideal amount of mistakes is non-zero.

We should compensate those who are improperly arrested and quickly correct these violations, attempt to prevent them in the future, reprimand those involved if necessary, but absolutely keep pushing ahead at full steam on law enforcement efforts otherwise.

Hot take: some small number of unlawful arrests aren't the "neener neener neener, you can't stop illegal immigration" that folks seem to think they are.

>>15155+6B1
> The ideal amount of mistakes is non-zero.

I’ve heard this argument in the context of capital punishment, and I find it incredibly unconvincing.

>>DANmod+2h2
> I’ve heard this argument in the context of capital punishment, and I find it incredibly unconvincing.

This is more or less a false dichotomy.

Capital punishment is by definition irreversible, so mistakes aren't tolerable.

Being arrested is legally and reasonably far more correctable with few lasting consequences: we can absorb these mistakes in the rare events they occur.