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1. kortex+9j[view] [source] 2025-12-16 18:18:34
>>theamk+(OP)
Does anyone else find it painfully ironic that the one CO cop said "You can't get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing," [0], in light of the George Floyd BLM rallying cry "I can't breathe!" and the common metaphor describing surveilance states as "suffocating"?

Like what are we doing as a society? Stop trying to build the surveilance nexus from sci fi. I don't want to live in a zero-crime world [1]. It's not worth it. Safety third, there is always gonna be some risk.

[0] https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/flock-cameras-lead-col...

[1] Edit to add: if this raises hackles, I encourage folks to think through what true zero crime (or maybe lets call it six-nines lawfulness) entails. If we had literal precrime, would that stop 99.9999% of crime? (hint: read the book/watch the movie)

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2. tptace+Al[view] [source] 2025-12-16 18:26:06
>>kortex+9j
Fair warning that this is a deeply unpopular argument in municipal politics.
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3. TheCra+Vn[view] [source] 2025-12-16 18:35:16
>>tptace+Al
I think that's kinda the point?

If public servants funded by taxpayers don't like it, maybe they shouldn't be forcing it on the populace and breaking the forth amendment.

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4. tptace+qo[view] [source] 2025-12-16 18:36:52
>>TheCra+Vn
It's unpopular with residents. Residents do not have the attitude towards crime reflected in the comment I replied to. It's a very online thing to say.
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5. kortex+Tu[view] [source] 2025-12-16 19:04:59
>>tptace+qo
Yeah perhaps it's a bit inflammatory and terminally online of me to say. But it's true. Zero crime means zero crime. Minority report levels of surveilance and policing.

What stance would you recommend? You're one of the folks here i recognize immediatedy and have a wealth of wisdom.

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