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1. jordan+D3[view] [source] 2025-12-06 18:16:28
>>todsac+(OP)
I always found the Perl "community" to be really off-putting with all the monk and wizard nonsense. Then there was the whole one-liner thing that was all about being clever and obscure. Everything about Python came off as being much more serious and normal for a young nerd who wasn't a theater kid.
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2. Insani+J9[view] [source] 2025-12-06 19:00:44
>>jordan+D3
I don’t know about the wider Perl community, but I listened to some interviews from Larry Wall and he just came across as a nerdy guy having fun with what he’s doing. I quite liked listening to him.
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3. wlonkl+pG[view] [source] 2025-12-06 23:51:53
>>Insani+J9
Larry was (and presumably is, but I'm out of that loop) a gem. The Weird Al of programming languages. Hilarious and kind.

But those who remember the regulars of, say, efnet #perl (THIS ISN'T A HELP CHANNEL), there was a dearth of kindness for sure. I was probably part of it too, because that was the culture! This is where the wizards live, why are you here asking us questions?

Like cms, I'm also hesitant to name names, but the folks I'm thinking of were definitely perl-famous in their day.

There were also a bunch of great people in the community, and they helped me launch my career in tech in the 90s, and I have close internet friends from that community to this day (and great memories of some who have passed on). But there were definitely also jerks.

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