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1. flatli+bR[view] [source] 2025-12-06 19:03:39
>>Anon84+(OP)
I have done a rigorous job of self diagnosis. I am autistic. I’ve also had the privilege of being able to pursue meditation, therapy, and other self development practices: I’m not as severely autistic as I was as a young man. I also have childhood trauma that I know contributes to many of my autistic presentations — see the last section on comorbidity. I also have some distinct ADHD symptoms but have never pursued that path because my hyperfocus tends to win out often enough that it’s not a hindrance to productivity. But it still causes problems elsewhere in my life.

For some people these diagnoses will be a very good fit with clear predictive outcomes. But many of us have a grab-bag of traits from several categories and still mostly get along in life, maybe with some assistance particular to one of these diagnosis but no more help overall than anyone else needs otherwise.

The diagnostic models suck. They are too broad here, too narrow there, misunderstood by professionals. I had a psychiatrist (mis)diagnose me as bipolar based on a 45 minute appointment when I was in some sort of crisis in my early 30s and that ended up haunting me years later when applying for a job with a security clearance. I didn’t even know about it at the time. This was one of the top rated doctors in a major metro area. What a sham.

The field is a mess. It has a terrible history of horrific abuse. Some autistic children still receive involuntary-to-them ECT. I think we should be supportive of research into these topics while also being critical of the very obvious problems with them.

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2. iambat+eT[view] [source] 2025-12-06 19:19:25
>>flatli+bR
It’s never occurred to me that someone could become more or less autistic…could you say more about what that has been like for you?
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3. cromul+gU[view] [source] 2025-12-06 19:26:25
>>iambat+eT
Not the OP, but after a couple of decades of people pointedly talking about eye contact, small talk, and body language, you learn “coping mechanisms” to deal with neurotypicals and make them more comfortable.

Did your sporting team have success on the weekend? Wonderful, direct eye contact, smile, mirror. Ok, now, to business:

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4. iambat+jV[view] [source] 2025-12-06 19:36:19
>>cromul+gU
That’s what I’m curious to hear from you and OP…does that make the autistic person less autistic? Or is it a mask?

I—-as a non-autistic person—-have lots of default tendencies which were socially discouraged as a child and which are now no longer part of my self concept. I’m not “repressing” a desire to be awkward, I’ve simply learned to be less awkward.

But my understanding of autism, which is I think backed by the article itself, is that autism exists as a fundamental cognitive process and tends to be pretty stable.

Btw the reason I ask is to learn…as a software dev and manager, several of the people I interact with could probably be diagnosed autistic and I’m always curious to try to understand what that’s like better.

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5. cj+331[view] [source] 2025-12-06 20:47:42
>>iambat+jV
As part of my job, I have to interview and hire people.

When I first started interviewing people, I would have crippling anxiety. On days I had a interview scheduled with a candidate, I would obsess and have anxiety to the point where I wasn't able to focus on anything until the interview was over. It was bad. I'd spend hours rehearsing every line I was going to say. I was an incredibly awkward interviewer.

Fast forward 10 years and hundreds of interviews later, the anxiety is completely gone and an interview doesn't even spike my heart rate anymore.

I absolutely met multiple DSM criteria for anxiety 10 years ago, but not anymore.

I suppose I was cured through "exposure therapy" (or whatever you call doing something repeatedly that gives you massive anxiety).

Interviewing still doesn't come naturally to me. But it's easy now because every interview is basically scripted. I repeat lines that I memorized over the years. I always start interviews with the same ice breaker. I use multiple tactics to put myself and the candidate at ease throughout the call.

Do I still have anxiety even though I've learned how to cope with it? I don't know.

Is someone still autistic if they were able to learn coping tactics that make the symptoms invisible to themselves and others? I don't know.

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6. Delk+kb1[view] [source] 2025-12-06 22:07:04
>>cj+331
I think the difference is that if an autistic person learns to mask, that's probably useful as a coping mechanism but doesn't remove the autism in the sense of making the fundamental neurological difference go away. Anxiety (even in anxiety disorders) can be fundamentally reduced by exposure therapy, not only in the sense of finding more effective coping mechanisms but in the sense of the anxiety itself diminishing or ceasing to exist.

For what it's worth, exposure therapy is a real term and it's an actual part of cognitive behavioural therapy.

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