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[return to "Perl's decline was cultural"]
1. jordan+D3[view] [source] 2025-12-06 18:16:28
>>todsac+(OP)
I always found the Perl "community" to be really off-putting with all the monk and wizard nonsense. Then there was the whole one-liner thing that was all about being clever and obscure. Everything about Python came off as being much more serious and normal for a young nerd who wasn't a theater kid.
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2. lysace+t6[view] [source] 2025-12-06 18:36:27
>>jordan+D3
Perl is a sysadmin language. There's "always" been this tension between sysadmins and developers.

In my mind (developer back then) I'd amateur-psychoanalyze all of that nonsense as some kind of inferiority complex meant to preserve the self image. Needless complexity can be a feature!

And now we are all developers!

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3. MrDarc+P6[view] [source] 2025-12-06 18:38:52
>>lysace+t6
In the 2000’s Python was also a sysadmin language.

Edit: But I see your point, Google SRE’s around the late 2000’s reached for Python more than Perl.

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4. oncall+Yc[view] [source] 2025-12-06 19:25:14
>>MrDarc+P6
I think Perl is still more popular even today than Python as a sysadmin language. Late 2000s it certainly was. Maybe Google was different, but across the industry more widely Python was barely used, Perl was used everywhere.
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5. lysace+5e[view] [source] 2025-12-06 19:34:19
>>oncall+Yc
My experience:

Sysadmin-driven companies (typically Sun-based) often used Perl.

Developer-driven companies used other languages running on cheaper X86 Linux.

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