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>>xnx+(OP)
I do some electrical drafting work for construction and throw basic tasks at LLMs.

I gave it a shitty harness and it almost 1 shotted laying out outlets in a room based on a shitty pdf. I think if I gave it better control it could do a huge portion of my coworkers jobs very soon

>>knolli+9P
"AI could never replace the creativity of a human"

"Ok, I guess it could wipe out the economic demand for digital art, but it could never do all the autonomous tasks of a project manager"

"Ok, I guess it could automate most of that away but there will always be a need for a human engineer to steer it and deal with the nuances of code"

"Ok, well it could never automate blue collar work, how is it gonna wrench a pipe it doesn't have hands"

The goalposts will continue to move until we have no idea if the comments are real anymore.

Remember when the Turing test was a thing? No one seems to remember it was considered serious in 2020

>>reduce+d51
The turing test is still a thing. No llm could pass for a person for more than a couple minutes of chatting. That’s a world of difference compared to a decade ago, but I would emphatically not call that “passing the turing test”

Also, none of the other things you mentioned have actually happened. Don’t really know why I bother responding to this stuff

>>Frater+6g1
Ironically the main tell of LLMs is that are too smart and write too well. No human can discuss the depth of topics they can and no humans writes like a author/journalist all the time.

i.e. the tell that it's not human is that it is too perfectly human.

However if we could transport people from 2012 to today to run the test on them, none would guess the LLM output was from a computer.

>>Workac+Xv2
That’s not the Turing Test; it’s just vaguely related. The Turing Test is an interactive party game of persuasion and deception, sort of like playing a werewolves versus villagers game. Almost nobody actually plays the game.

Also, the skill of the human opponents matters. There’s a difference between testing a chess bot against randomly selected college undergrads versus chess grandmasters.

Just like jailbreaks are not hard to find, figuring out exploits to get LLM’s to reveal themselves probably wouldn’t be that hard? But to even play the game at all, someone would need to train LLM’s that don’t immediately admit that they’re bots.