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>>meetpa+(OP)
Kudos to Cloudflare for clarity and diligence.

When talking of their earlier Lua code:

> we have never before applied a killswitch to a rule with an action of “execute”.

I was surprised that a rules-based system was not tested completely, perhaps because the Lua code is legacy relative to the newer Rust implementation?

It tracks what I've seen elsewhere: quality engineering can't keep up with the production engineering. It's just that I think of CloudFlare as an infrastructure place, where that shouldn't be true.

I had a manager who came from defense electronics in the 1980's. He said in that context, the quality engineering team was always in charge, and always more skilled. For him, software is backwards.

>>w10-1+aw
This is funny, considering that someone that worked on the defense industry (guide missile system) found a memory leak on one of their products, at that time. They told him that they knew about it, but that it's timed just right with the range of the system it would be used, so it doesn't matter.

>>braiam+qD
This paraphrased urban legend has nothing to do with quality engineering though? As described, it's designed to the spec and working as intended.

>>Ethery+GK
It tracks with my experience in software quality engineering. Asked to find problems with something already working well in the field. Dutifully find bugs/etc. Get told that it's working though so nobody will change anything. In dysfunctional companies, which is probably most of them, quality engineering exists to cover asses, not to actually guide development.

>>mikkup+ql1
It is not dysfunctional to ignore unreachable "bugs". A memory leak on a missile which won't be reached because it will explode long before that amount of time has passed is not a bug.

>>colech+Ru1
The way it always seemed to go for me, when I was in that role, is the product is already complete, development is done, you're handed all the tests/etc that the disinterested developers care to give you, and you're told to make those tests presentable and robust, and increase test coverage. The process of doing that inevitably uncovers issues, but nobody cares because the thing is already done and working, so what was the point of any of it? The point was just to check off a box. At companies like this, the role is bullshit work.