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>>meetpa+(OP)
> This is a straightforward error in the code, which had existed undetected for many years. This type of code error is prevented by languages with strong type systems. In our replacement for this code in our new FL2 proxy, which is written in Rust, the error did not occur.

Cloudflare deployed code that was literally never tested, not even once, neither manually nor by unit test, otherwise the straightforward error would have been detected immediately, and their implied solution seems to be not testing their code when written, or even adding 100% code coverage after the fact, but rather relying on a programming language to bail them out and cover up their failure to test.

>>lapcat+c5
Large scale infrastructure changes are often by nature completely untestable. The system is too large, there are too many moving parts to replicate with any kind of sane testing, so often, you do find out in prod, which is why robust and fast rollback procedures are usually desirable and implemented.

>>JohnMa+An
Akamai manages it.

>>roguec+xS
They don't, akamai has had several outages as well jsut no one notices. Akamai is way way smaller than cloudflare, 20% of internet traffic passes through CF networks, not sure it's even measurable on Akamai.

>>winddu+Si1
Quickly Googling about, a commonly repeated figure is that Akamai served 15% - 30% of Internet traffic in the late 2010's. They probably have less of the market today due to others growing, but they're not a minnow.

2024 revenue figures were $1.669 billion for Cloudflare, and $3.99 billion for Akamai, per Wikipedia.

>>andrew+4A1
https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/proxy, they are tiny compared to CF, their revenue is high because they focus on large enterprise clients.

>>winddu+FN1
> 20% of internet traffic passes through CF networks

That does not sound right to me. “20 percent of websites” does not mean “20 percent of traffic.”.

There is no public write-up from Cloudflare that proves “we handle 20% of all Internet traffic.” Cloudflare reports around 295,000 paying customers and more than 30 million Internet properties (20% of the web). So most of their users are on the free plan.

>>z00z1+fV2
agreed, cloudflare says 20% of all websties, which makes sense, digging into it the "20% of all web traffic" seems to have been like a game of telephone in media, social media, and/or AI.

I can't believe they only have 295,000 paying customer, that puts me in a small minority. lol