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1. cpncru+Qo[view] [source] 2025-12-05 17:14:59
>>meetpa+(OP)
I've noticed that in recent months, even apart from these outages, cloudflare has been contributing to a general degradation and shittification of the internet. I'm seeing a lot more "prove you're human", "checking to make sure you're human", and there is normally at the very least a delay of a few seconds before the site loads.

I don't think this is really helping the site owners. I suspect it's mainly about AI extortion:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-pay-per-crawl/

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2. james2+Br[view] [source] 2025-12-05 17:26:40
>>cpncru+Qo
You call it extortion of the AI companies, but isn’t stealing/crawling/hammering a site to scrape their content to resell just as nefarious? I would say Cloudflare is giving these site owners an option to protect their content and as a byproduct, reduce their own costs of subsidizing their thieves. They can choose to turn off the crawl protection. If they aren't, that tells you that they want it, doesn’t it?
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3. cpncru+TK[view] [source] 2025-12-05 18:52:00
>>james2+Br
>You call it extortion of the AI companies, but isn’t stealing/crawling/hammering a site to scrape their content to resell just as nefarious?

You can easily block ChatGPT and most other AI scrapers if you want:

https://habeasdata.neocities.org/ai-bots

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4. Sohcah+XC1[view] [source] 2025-12-05 23:44:24
>>cpncru+TK
How are you this naive? Do you really think scrapers give a damn about your robots.txt?
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