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1. Workac+9P1[view] [source] 2025-12-05 15:34:08
>>mikela+(OP)
I don't know how "German engineering" became a badge of honor. Probably from the people who continually roll new leases every 2 years.

Even 25 years ago working on German vehicles compared to the Japanese counter-parts was a harrowing endeavor.

Germans are excellent at making cool flashy features...that rely on 16 moving parts that cost $700 each, and need to remove the engine exhaust manifold to access one screw to release part #15.

They get a 10 for "Wow!" factor, a 0 for "well thought out", and a 10 for "extremely over complicated". Unsurprisingly this mindset has carried over into EVs now too.

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2. gambit+vR1[view] [source] 2025-12-05 15:43:37
>>Workac+9P1
>>Probably from the people who continually roll new leases every 2 years.

100% this. BMW's own stats say that something like 90% of buyers of new BMWs keep them for 3 years or less. The fact that parts like oil pans are made out of plastic or that lately all their gearboxes have the oil drain port completely removed is just irrelevant to the buyers because none of them care about keeping the car for a decade like people used to. And the collapse of second hand prices due to these catastrophic repair costs is not really a problem for them either.

>>Germans are excellent at making cool flashy features...that rely on 16 moving parts that cost $700 each

To be completely fair - Mercedes used to do this in their S Class and also it would work for decades despite the complexity. That's German Engineering. But that quality has been missing across all German brands for a good while, it pops up every and now then in specific components that are still extremely well designed and reliable, but it's not standard across the entire vehicle.

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