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[return to "Netflix’s AV1 Journey: From Android to TVs and Beyond"]
1. ls612+G8[view] [source] 2025-12-05 01:12:35
>>Charle+(OP)
On a related note, why are release groups not putting out AV1 WEB-DLs? Most 4K stuff is h265 now but if AV1 is supplied without re-encoding surely that would be better?
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2. Dwedit+qa[view] [source] 2025-12-05 01:28:00
>>ls612+G8
Because pirates are unaffected by the patent situation with H.265.
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3. ls612+Ja[view] [source] 2025-12-05 01:30:43
>>Dwedit+qa
But isn’t AV1 just better than h.265 now regardless of the patents? The only downside is limited compatibility.
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4. phanta+ug[view] [source] 2025-12-05 02:23:54
>>ls612+Ja
I avoid av1 downloads when possible because I don’t want to have to figure out how to disable film grain synthesis and then deal with whatever damage that causes to apparent quality on a video that was encoded with it in mind. Like I just don’t want any encoding that supports that, if I can stay away from it.
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5. Wowfun+Dk[view] [source] 2025-12-05 03:01:51
>>phanta+ug
With HEVC you just don't have the option to disable film grain because it's burned into the video stream.
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6. phanta+Nl[view] [source] 2025-12-05 03:14:46
>>Wowfun+Dk
I’m not looking to disable film grain, if it’s part of the source.
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7. Mashim+TD[view] [source] 2025-12-05 07:10:14
>>phanta+Nl
Does AV1 add it if it's not part of the source?
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8. phanta+qq1[view] [source] 2025-12-05 12:53:27
>>Mashim+TD
I dunno, but if there is grain in the source it may erase it (discarding information) then invent new grain (noise) later.
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9. Wowfun+9M1[view] [source] 2025-12-05 14:45:57
>>phanta+qq1
I'm skeptical of this (I think they avoid adding grain to the AV1 stream which they add to the other streams--of course all grain is artificial in modern times), but even if true--like, all grain is noise! It's random noise from the sensor. There's nothing magical about it.
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