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1. shetay+xc[view] [source] 2025-12-04 19:08:42
>>delich+(OP)
Regarding Stanford specifically, I did not see the number broken down by academic or residential disability (in the underlying Atlantic article). This is relevant, because

> Some students get approved for housing accommodations, including single rooms and emotional-support animals.

buries the lede, at least for Stanford. It is incredibly commonplace for students to "get an OAE" (Office of Accessible Education) exclusively to get a single room. Moreover, residential accommodations allow you to be placed in housing prior to the general population and thus grant larger (& better) housing selection.

I would not be surprised if a majority of the cited Stanford accommodations were not used for test taking but instead used exclusively for housing (there are different processes internally for each).

edit: there is even a practice of "stacking" where certain disabilities are used to strategically reduce the subset of dorms in which you can live, to the point where the only intersection between your requirements is a comfy single, forcing Admin to put you there. It is well known, for example, that a particularly popular dorm is the nearest to the campus clinic. If you can get an accommodation requiring proximity to the clinic, you have narrowed your choices to that dorm or another. One more accommodation and you are guaranteed the good dorm.

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2. Aurorn+jx[view] [source] 2025-12-04 20:43:28
>>shetay+xc
The original article which is linked in this post goes into much better detail: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/01/elite-universit...

Schools and universities have made accommodations a priority for decades. It started with good intentions, but parents and students alike have noticed that it's both a) easy to qualify for a disability and b) provides significant academic advantages if you do.

Another big accommodation request is extra time on tests. At many high schools and universities, getting more time than your peers to take tests is as simple as finding a doctor who will write the write things in a note for you. Some universities grant special permissions to record lectures to students with disabilities, too.

If you don't have a disability, you aren't allowed to record lectures and you have to put your pencil down at the end of the normal test window. As you can imagine, when a high percentage of the student body gets to stay longer for a hard test, the wheels start turning in students' heads as they realize cheating is being normalized and they're being left behind by not getting that doctors' note.

The rampant abuse is really becoming a problem for students with true disabilities. As you can imagine, when the disability system is faced with 1/3 of the student body registering for disability status the limited number of single rooms and other resources will inevitably get assigned to people who don't need it while some who actually do need it are forced to go without.

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3. jaredk+Az[view] [source] 2025-12-04 20:54:51
>>Aurorn+jx
Can someone explain to me why the accommodations make sense in the first place?

Like what's the point of having the test be time constrained? If there is no point, then just let everyone have more time. If there is a point to having the test be time constrained, then aren't we just holding one group to a lower standard than another group? Why is that good?

Same question about lectures. Is there a reason everyone can't record the lectures? If so, then why do we have different standards?

I think at the college level, grades should in some sense reflect your proficiency at a given topic. An "A" in calculus should mean that you can do calculus and that evaluation should be independent of your own strengths, weaknesses, disabilities, genetic predisposition to it, and so on. Imagine an extreme example: someone is in a car crash, suffers brain damage, and is now unable to do calculus. This is tragic. But I don't also feel that it now makes sense to let them do their tests open book or whatever to accommodate for that. As a society we should do whatever we can to support this individual and help them live their best life. But I don't see how holding them to a lower standard on their college exams accomplishes that.

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4. wisty+PA[view] [source] 2025-12-04 21:00:37
>>jaredk+Az
Lots of people think a test should measure one thing (often under the slightly "main character" assumption that they'll be really good at the one truly important thing).

Tests usually measure lots of things, and speed and accuracy / fluency in the topic is one.

It certainly shouldn't be entirely a race either though.

Also if a test is time constrained it's easier to mark. Give a failing student 8 hours and they'll write 30 pages of nonsense.

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5. jaredk+9E[view] [source] 2025-12-04 21:16:51
>>wisty+PA
> Also if a test is time constrained it's easier to mark. Give a failing student 8 hours and they'll write 30 pages of nonsense.

Sure that makes sense to me, but I don't see why this would not also apply to ADHD students or any other group.

And of course, there needs to be some time limit. All I am saying is, instead of having a group that gets one hour and another group that gets two hours, just give everyone two hours.

I meant "constrained" not in the sense of having a limit at all, but in the sense that often tests are designed in such a way that it is very common that takers are unable to finish in the allotted time. If this constraint serves some purpose (i.e. speed is considered to be desirable) then I don't see why that purpose doesn't apply to everyone.

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6. ajsnig+P01[view] [source] 2025-12-04 23:19:12
>>jaredk+9E
> All I am saying is, instead of having a group that gets one hour and another group that gets two hours, just give everyone two hours.

This means that someone fully abled can think about and solve problems for 1h and 50 minutes, and use 10 minutes to physically write/type the answers, and someone with a disability (eg. missing a hand, using a prosthetic) only gets eg. one hour to solve the problems and one hour to write/type the answers due to the disablity making them write/type more slowly.

Same for eg. someone blind, while with proper eyesight, you might read a question in 30 seconds, someone blind reading braille might need multiple minutes to read the same text.

With unlimited time this would not be a problem, but since speed is graded too (since it's important), this causes differences in grades.

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7. jaredk+n31[view] [source] 2025-12-04 23:30:23
>>ajsnig+P01
Those examples seem like reasonable, narrowly tailored accomodations to me. But the article linked in the parent comment says:

> The increase is driven by more young people getting diagnosed with conditions such as ADHD, anxiety, and depression, and by universities making the process of getting accommodations easier.

I think these disabilities are more complex than the broken hand and blindness examples for reasons I commented on elsewhere in this thread. In your example, a student with depression or clinical anxiety presumably only needs the same 10 minutes to write/type the answers as all the other students. Which means the extra time is added for them to "think about and solve problems." That seems fundamentally different to me than the broken hand example.

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8. kayode+sj1[view] [source] 2025-12-05 01:25:16
>>jaredk+n31
The accommodation process shouldn't be easier. I had to provide documentation to an employer per ADA rules.

For real mental disabilities, extra time is actually necessary because a person's brain isn't able to work at the same rate as a healthy person under that situation.

I'm bipolar and have personal experience with this. My brain can lock up on me and I'll need five minutes or so to get it back. Depressive episodes can also affect my memory retrieval. Things come to me slower than they usually do.

I also can't keep track of time the way a healthy person does. I don't actually know how much time each problem takes, and sometimes I don't know how much time is left because can't remember when the test started. I can't read analog clocks; it takes me 10~20 seconds to read them. (1)

Extra time isn't giving me any advantage, it just gives me a chance.

1: I'm not exaggerating here. I've have dyslexia when it comes to numbers.

Here's what I need to do to figure out how much time is left:

- Dig through my brain to find what time it's started. This could remember something was being heard, something I saw, or recalling everything I know about the class.

- Hold onto that number and hope I don't flip the hour and minutes.

- Find a clock anywhere in the classroom and try to remember if it's accurate or not. While I'm doing this I also have to continuously tell the start time to myself.

- Find out the position of the hour hand.

- Tell myself the start time.

- Look at the dial, figure out the hour and try to hold on to it.

- Tell myself the start time.

- Tell myself the hour number.

- Tell myself the start time.

- Find out the position of the minute hand.

- Tell myself the start time.

- Hour forgotten, restart from the hour hand.

- Hour remembered, start time forgotten, restart from the top.

- Both remembered.

- Look at the dial, figure out minute and try to hold to it.

- Hour and start time need to be remembered.

- Combined hour and minute from analog clock.

- Figure out what order I should subtract them in.

- Remember everything

- Two math operations.

Now that I have the time and I don't remember what I needed it for.

- Realize I'm taking a test and try to estimate how much more time I need to complete it.

I could probably use a stopwatch or countdown, but that causes extreme anxiety as I watch the numbers change.

I don't have this kind of problem at my job because I'm not taking arbitrarily-timed tests that determine my worth to society. They don't, but that's what my brain tells me no matter how many times I try to correct it.

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9. SauntS+am1[view] [source] 2025-12-05 01:47:55
>>kayode+sj1
If your brain isn't able to work at the same rate as a healthy person, what's the argument for why grades shouldn't reflect that?

Put another way, if my brain works at a slower rate than the genius in my class, is it then unfair if my grades don't match theirs?

In general these seem like reasonable differences to consider when hiring someone for a job.

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