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1. adverb+H53[view] [source] 2025-12-03 18:47:45
>>evolve+(OP)
Everything valve doing for linux is making such a huge impact.

The HL3 memes don't even seem fair to use anymore. I don't even want to un-seriously make joke fun of them at this point. They are just genuinely doing so much for the community.

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2. tomber+Rt3[view] [source] 2025-12-03 20:40:41
>>adverb+H53
I love Proton and I like Steam and Valve definitely has done a lot of good for the FOSS world, but let’s not make the same mistakes we made with Google by worshipping a company.

All it takes is new management to change the policies to make the company horrible and evil, and in the case of Google people made the realization far too late, and now Google owns too much of the internet to avoid.

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3. Gormo+lv5[view] [source] 2025-12-04 13:48:26
>>tomber+Rt3
A "company" is just an organizational model employed by people to pursue the intentions that those people have. It goes without saying that large endeavors involving many people will have a mixture of good and bad intentions.

Opposing all organized endeavors simply because they have the potential to pursue bad intentions essentially resolves to being against anything anyone is ever doing, which is more than a little bit pointless.

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4. tomber+QI5[view] [source] 2025-12-04 15:05:26
>>Gormo+lv5
I didn’t say you would oppose all organized endeavors. I said we shouldn’t worship companies.
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5. Gormo+EL5[view] [source] 2025-12-04 15:20:45
>>tomber+QI5
Well, no one is literally worshiping companies, so I interpreted this as a hyperbolic way of saying that people shouldn't express approval for activities done by companies.

But companies themselves are just organizational paradigms used by people to pursue human intentions, and the reason you offered as to why we shouldn't "worship companies" was based on the possibility of people acting on bad intentions within those organizational paradigms.

But the possibility of people acting on bad intentions is present in all contexts of human activity, regardless of what organizational paradigm people are using to coordinate their activities.

So if "worship" resolves to "express approval for", and "companies" resolves to "organized human activity", based on a failure modality that's always present in all cases, then you are actually saying that people should not express approval for organized human activity.

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6. tomber+HQ6[view] [source] 2025-12-04 20:43:15
>>Gormo+EL5
It’s fine to express approval for something a corporation does, but I think you are wrong when you say people don’t worship companies. The cult of Apple is very real.

I mostly meant “let’s look at this stuff with a healthy amount of cynicism”. This isn’t to say we can’t like the good things.

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