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1. adverb+H53[view] [source] 2025-12-03 18:47:45
>>evolve+(OP)
Everything valve doing for linux is making such a huge impact.

The HL3 memes don't even seem fair to use anymore. I don't even want to un-seriously make joke fun of them at this point. They are just genuinely doing so much for the community.

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2. levoca+Yb3[view] [source] 2025-12-03 19:19:32
>>adverb+H53
Valve is one of the few companies regularly seen on HN where the headline is something like "[company] is secretly doing something really great" as opposed to "[company] is secretly doing something evil"
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3. Tulliu+2d3[view] [source] 2025-12-03 19:24:24
>>levoca+Yb3
People complain about the gambling/loot box stuff, and yeah there's legit ethical concerns there.

But overall Valve just seems straightforwardly less shitty towards the consumer than other major companies in their space, by a long shot.

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4. xbmcus+EA3[view] [source] 2025-12-03 21:16:37
>>Tulliu+2d3
The major reason is they are a private company with good business. The don't have a need to keep adding to shareholder value ie stock price instead just need to generate a yearly income. We have reached a point where the shareholders are a companies real customers and that is who they all try to attract.Everytthing else a company does is just to attract shareholders
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5. johnny+mW3[view] [source] 2025-12-03 23:11:19
>>xbmcus+EA3
I'm not really a fan of this reasoning when in the same breath: Epic is also a private company but has its share of stuff.

It's done some good stuff for the industry and even contributed to some bit FOSS projects. But business is still business.

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6. quitit+Q14[view] [source] 2025-12-03 23:50:06
>>johnny+mW3
Attributing it to private company behaviour really minimises what Valve chooses to do. Per your counter example: Epic Games has been having a very public meltdown this week regarding Steam's inclusion of Gen-AI labelling - here we have two private companies, with two very different priorities.

It's also worth reminding ourselves that Epic settled with the FTC for over half a billion dollars for tricking kids into making unwanted purchases in Fortnite.(1) Epic also stonewalled parents' attempts at obtaining refunds, going so far as to delete Fortnite accounts in retaliation for those who arranged charge backs.

Furthermore the FTC's evidence included internal communications showing that Epic deliberately schemed and implemented these dark patterns specifically to achieve the fraudulent result, even testing different approaches to optimise it.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/12/...

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7. johnny+Xa4[view] [source] 2025-12-04 00:58:38
>>quitit+Q14
I don't really get it myself. I personally don't give Steam credit for weakly saying 'hey you need to label something'. Let me know when really enforce it. Heck, let me know when they at least add a filter. That's when you can really impact the behaviour (or prove consumers really don't care).

But yew ,both private companies do their own forms of evil.

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8. quitit+FE6[view] [source] 2025-12-04 19:50:35
>>johnny+Xa4
Yeah we also need to get out of the dichotomous thinking that companies are either all good or all bad.

Companies will do things that represent their interests, sometimes their goals align well with their customers, or the greater good, and sometimes they do unpopular things where they believe the profitability will outweigh the blowback.*

It's a lesson in not being too attached or needlessly loyal - our connection to a business is not a personal one.

*The Epic example is useful because their actions represent a steady pattern of deceptive conduct.

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