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1. siwata+Yc[view] [source] 2025-12-04 10:58:11
>>pavela+(OP)
I actually think that people should rather use EcmaScript name instead of JavaScript, because it's a way better name (much less confusing, given that this lang doesn't have anything to do with Java anyway). I wish Oracle started suing people to force everyone to use the better name.
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2. phplov+pd[view] [source] 2025-12-04 11:02:08
>>siwata+Yc
That boat sailed soooo many years ago tho. Oracle has no business claiming javascript as a trademark.
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3. cies+lg[view] [source] 2025-12-04 11:29:34
>>phplov+pd
Oracle is in the business of bullying others using their big legal dept.

We all know this.

> Oracle has no business claiming javascript as a trademark.

You think so. That's okay. But ultimately it is up to a judge to decide. Right?

I agree with the EcmaScript. Just ditch the stupid name. Get all the petition signers to agree an move on. Fuck Oracle. Fuck JavaScript (it's nothing like Java anyway).

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4. mcny+Pi[view] [source] 2025-12-04 11:47:38
>>cies+lg
> But ultimately it is up to a judge to decide. Right?

I think we are getting a rude awakening about what is legal versus what is actually right are not always the same thing. There are some the horrible, horrible things here and the laws need updating, as opposed to us simply saying this is for a judge to decide and there is nothing else we can do.

I am ok with ditching the JavaScript name. I understand this cuts the problem entirely. However, there are other problems we have that we can't bypass so easily.

We need copyright terms to be much reduced. We need CFAA fully repealed and not replaced by anything. We need to abolish software patents. There is a lot we need to do that will likely take a century to accomplish and that's likely being too optimistic.

What we can't do is leave everything up to the judges because clearly even if we get a favorable ruling today, the precedent can be removed by another stroke of a pen.

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