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1. PaulHo+VK2[view] [source] 2025-12-03 17:10:05
>>evolve+(OP)
Would love to see it on MacOS X -- Steam works great on my Mac Mini for the games it supports, would be great to see everything run on it.
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2. stetra+6Q2[view] [source] 2025-12-03 17:32:08
>>PaulHo+VK2
Yep. I know Apple has little motivation to support such a project but it would be great to see them work with Valve on this. Having the majority of Steam games "just work" on modern Macs, like they do on the Steam Deck, would be fantastic.
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3. EA-316+9U2[view] [source] 2025-12-03 17:51:31
>>stetra+6Q2
I think it's more than "little motivation" if we're being honest. Right now Valve is quietly targeting MS' attempt to create a walled garden for gaming on Windows and (probably) cut them out. Their very clever approach has been a full end-run around the OS by using Proton, which I'm sure genuinely thrilled Apple... as long as Valve is only doing that to MS.

Why would Apple ever invite Valve to potentially do the same to them?

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4. aleman+l63[view] [source] 2025-12-03 18:51:15
>>EA-316+9U2
Apples biggest weakness is games. But it has a pretty large install base when compared to Linux (not counting phones or servers here).Seems like a win/win. Apple gets to address their weaknesses and Valve gets a large target market.

I actually see it as the reverse. Valve might be going for the whole pie and want to carve out a niche for their Steam Box. Inviting Apple to the party might detract from that effort. Or at the very least distract from their main focus.

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5. overfe+7d3[view] [source] 2025-12-03 19:24:44
>>aleman+l63
> Apple gets to address their weaknesses and Valve gets a large target market.

I don't think Apple wants any non-Apple store addressing their weaknesses, especially a solution as competent and well-funded as Steam.

If Valve gains Apple-user mindshare on Mac, what prevents them from expanding to iPhones and iPads in the EU, and likely elsewhere if anti-monopoly laws get entrenched? IIRC, Services is the fastest growing revenue source at Apple.

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6. aleman+Te3[view] [source] 2025-12-03 19:33:35
>>overfe+7d3
That’s a fair point. I don’t think they care about steam competing on the desktop but mobile is another ballgame entirely.
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