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1. DrierC+R1[view] [source] 2025-11-30 16:18:09
>>ChrisA+(OP)
AlphaFold is optimization, not thinking. Propaganda 'r us.
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2. fredol+h3[view] [source] 2025-11-30 16:27:01
>>DrierC+R1
Did you watch the documentary? Would probably fare better if you did, because it'd give you the context for the film title.
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3. DrierC+c4[view] [source] 2025-11-30 16:33:08
>>fredol+h3
I'm an hour into it, unconvinced.

The illusion that agency 'emerges' from rules like games, is fundamentally absurd.

This is the foundational illusion of mechanics. It's UFOlogy not science.

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4. Zigurd+O8[view] [source] 2025-11-30 16:59:27
>>DrierC+c4
Your mind emerges from a network of neurons. Machine models are probably far from enabling that kind of emergence, but if what's going on between our ears isn't computation, it's magic.
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5. DrierC+aa[view] [source] 2025-11-30 17:07:06
>>Zigurd+O8
It's not magic. It's neural syntax. And nothing trapped by computation is occurring. It's not a model, it is the world as actions.

The computer is a hand-me-down tool under evolution's glass ceiling. This should be obvious: binary, symbols, metaphors. These are toys (ie they are models), and humans are in our adolescent stage using these toys.

Only analog correlation gets us to agency and thought.

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