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[return to "Petition to formally recognize open source work as civic service in Germany"]
1. little+gb[view] [source] 2025-11-28 15:28:51
>>Philip+(OP)
I see the danger of corporations "reimbursing" people to work on very specific plugins and extensions, that coincidentally match the requirement of the corporation, at 12€/hour to evade taxes, social security contributions and minimum wage. As a German, I oppose that petition since "open source" is a vaguely defined term, and might not be clearly seperable from commercial work.
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2. crote+Wg[view] [source] 2025-11-28 16:05:32
>>little+gb
Aren't those kind of reimbursements usually strictly capped?

For example, if you do volunteer work in The Netherlands you can get at most €5.60/hour, with a maximum of €210/month and €2100/year. I assume Germany will have similar rules.

€12/hour is just about minimum wage. Explaining how that isn't a salary is going to be pretty much impossible - it'll rightfully be interpreted as tax fraud. On top of a violation of labor laws for paying less than minimum wage, of course.

I do see a lot of benefits, though. There are plenty of people who aren't well-off who are doing incredibly valuable work for F/LOSS project. If you're holding a conference you really want to be able to invite those people without putting the burden of travel expenses on them: a €200 train ticket can easily be a dealbreaker for a poor student.

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3. little+wr[view] [source] 2025-11-28 17:05:52
>>crote+Wg
I picked 12€ because I have heard of volunteers getting that. Depending on the kind of the work there can also be a fixed travel-reimbursement. I.e. donating blood gets you 20€ for roughly 60minutes of "work".
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4. port11+PU[view] [source] 2025-11-28 20:06:41
>>little+wr
Where is this happening? AFAIK most (all?) of the EU strictly forbids being paid for blood or blood component donations outside of very specific research.

(As a donor I tried to sell blood when I couldn't afford rent and food, but it seemed impossible.)

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5. little+rN1[view] [source] 2025-11-29 07:06:42
>>port11+PU
All over Germany. As a student, I donated blood plasma which was way more lucrative (until the US banned plasma imports and killed the market). You can donate plasma more often (up to 5 times in 14 days), and IIRC I got 17€ per session, 30€ for every 3rd session, and 50€ for every 5th session. Yes, they had a consitency-reward schema going on in order to get you engaged and keep coming back. Plus, also wanted to thwart off people in financial needs that desperately need money the next day (like drug addicts).
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