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1. porphy+M3[view] [source] 2025-10-24 17:29:49
>>speckx+(OP)
Mozilla could have had the no-nonsense, high performance browser backend that everyone uses to build their own browsers (like the recent glut of AI browsers), instead of everyone using Chromium/Blink. In the past, Gecko was really the go-to choice for this. They almost had a second shot with Servo. But they kinda really dropped the ball on the technical capability of the browser while continuing to be distracted by all sorts of random gimmicks like Pocket and then this. Sad!
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2. bitpus+H4[view] [source] 2025-10-24 17:35:05
>>porphy+M3
> Mozilla could have had the no-nonsense, high performance browser backend that everyone uses to build their own browsers

I agree with the sentiment, but you underestimate the level of engineering, coordination, design work, testing it is to do this.

It is admirable that they even have a half-decent browser, but to compete at the top you need soooo much money and motivation.

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3. rudedo+79[view] [source] 2025-10-24 17:58:52
>>bitpus+H4
> It is admirable that they even have a half-decent browser, but to compete at the top you need soooo much money and motivation.

I’m guessing Ladybird will prove you wrong in due time

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4. Barrin+Fd[view] [source] 2025-10-24 18:26:02
>>rudedo+79
Modern web browsers are in the range of 30 million LOC, probably 50% of that is just pure implementation of web platform standards and engine work.

Do you just need to advertise stuff among content creators these days with common sense going out of the window? It'll take them a decade to catch up without any engineering funding at the level that Apple/Google/Mozilla have.

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5. rudedo+Fk[view] [source] 2025-10-24 19:04:48
>>Barrin+Fd
> Do you just need to advertise stuff among content creators these days with common sense going out of the window?

I’m not a content creator and I don’t really care about Ladybird. I use Safari.

I’m just pointing out that browsers have decades of legacy cruft from mis-steps deciding what the web even should be and someone smart can carve out a path to covering 90% of use cases in 10% of the effort and code. And there are the huge organizational costs Google and others pay that a small organization doesn’t have to.

Your argument is the same as looking at a large company (say Microsoft) and saying no one can compete without trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of engineers. Ladybird has the benefit of hindsight, as well as a non-idiotic structure (I assume).

The defeatism among engineers is sad

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