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>>hhs+(OP)
The slide into hell is steep and slippery. I’m afraid we’re in a dark period of history that’s only going to get darker.

I want proponents of this tech to explain something to me. Why has the rate of stochastic terrorism only increased since the NSA and Palantir started spying on all of us? Isn’t the whole point of this to preempt those kinds of things?

>>therob+mi
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public. That includes being recorded on video, or audio.

>>lepton+MC
There's no reasonable expectation of pervasive video/audio capture, permanent recording, and complete AI analysis of all actions in public by all citizens forever, either. But that's the direction in which we're rapidly heading.

>>Bud+vL
(Vouched for this comment, which was somehow already dead at 2 minutes old.)

Someone will always say "there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public", for whatever reason. So someone always has to respond to that, for the benefit of anyone who doesn't know that not everyone agrees with that dismissive assertion.

>>neilv+pM
>Someone will always say "there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public", for whatever reason.

It isn't "for whatever reason", it is part of the first amendment. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it hasn't been the law for a very long time.

>>lepton+vV
Everyone has heard the phrase. It doesn't necessarily mean what the person saying it thinks it means.

For example, you can't legally photograph people in certain ways in public in some US jurisdictions. (Because "no expectation of privacy" perverts

There are also restrictions on secret audio recording without consent under circumstances that some people would try to claim are public.

For another example, there are restrictions on how you use that "no expectation of privacy", US-wide (e.g., commercial use of photographs, or cyberbullying).

And that's before we get into common decency, or arguable conflicting laws or principles.

But of course, every single time there is an opportunity for some new person to dismiss a good point with "no reasonable expectation of privacy!" such a new person materialize. And so someone else has to spend their time responding.